Next Car?

Don't shoot me, people!

I've been looking at a car that is neither an MG nor an EV...

The Geely Starray hybrid caught my eye for two reasons. One, because it has a long EV only range (I think the larger battery model is up to 84 miles) and two, the larger battery model supports up to 60 kW rapid DC charging.the smaller battery is up to 51 miles and supports 30kW rapid DC charging.

It is well-speccd too. The only downside for me is that I find the looks a bit bloated.

Has anyone come across the car?
Don’t fret 🤣 at least you seem to be looking at a plug in hybrid. My daughter in law has just traded in her Jaguar Ftype just before its service (to include over $1000 for new brakes all round - at 20,000 miles 😱) Thenew car is a Hyundai Santa Fe hybrid six seater to accommodate Mack.
No plug in capability despite a roof full of panels (in California) and a hulking great Tesla battery at the back door ????
Oh well - I suppose 30 mpg Santa Fe beats Fpace <15mpg any day.
Seems lots of folks are heading to hybrids. I can see an attraction if range is a worry but I’ve never experienced much of that.
 
Not when you've been doing it your whole life....
:ROFLMAO:

Buying things like large appliances or mobile phones or cars means I have to make lists and compare everything down to the last detail.

"This is good", you're thinking...but then I discover that the replacement item doesn't have a feature that the current one does. Or I'm comparing two items like phones, one has a larger screen and no NFC, the other has NFC but a smaller screen.

I can twist myself in knots trying to decide which product to go for. And consequently it can take a long time. Sometimes months and months...

It's the same in a cafe or restaurant. I mean, it doesn't take me months, but I have a seriously hard time choosing what to eat!

If there was just one choice for everything, I wouldn't have a problem!
 
Not when you've been doing it your whole life....
:ROFLMAO:

Buying things like large appliances or mobile phones or cars means I have to make lists and compare everything down to the last detail.

"This is good", you're thinking...but then I discover that the replacement item doesn't have a feature that the current one does. Or I'm comparing two items like phones, one has a larger screen and no NFC, the other has NFC but a smaller screen.

I can twist myself in knots trying to decide which product to go for. And consequently it can take a long time. Sometimes months and months...

It's the same in a cafe or restaurant. I mean, it doesn't take me months, but I have a seriously hard time choosing what to eat!

If there was just one choice for everything, I wouldn't have a problem!
But what about the classic- take it or leave it 🤪
 
I had an obnoxious car dealer once say that to me. (I'm not for one minute suggesting that you are obnoxious!).
I got up and walked out.

As I got to the door, I could hear him saying "Now let's not be hasty..."

I didn't even look back.

So, I can do some things without procrastinating!
 
Not when you've been doing it your whole life....
:ROFLMAO:

Buying things like large appliances or mobile phones or cars means I have to make lists and compare everything down to the last detail.

"This is good", you're thinking...but then I discover that the replacement item doesn't have a feature that the current one does. Or I'm comparing two items like phones, one has a larger screen and no NFC, the other has NFC but a smaller screen.

I can twist myself in knots trying to decide which product to go for. And consequently it can take a long time. Sometimes months and months...

It's the same in a cafe or restaurant. I mean, it doesn't take me months, but I have a seriously hard time choosing what to eat!

If there was just one choice for everything, I wouldn't have a problem!
I'm the same. Anything under £30 are no problem as the amount of gadgets and gizmos I have will testify. But phones, laptops, TVs etc. will take hours of research until I know which make and model I want.

Then depending on how quickly it's needed, or should I say want it, will depend on whether I wait for it to be on sale.

I did my research on a new phone and knew I wanted a Pixel 8a so when it was on special offer with £80 off at John Lewis I swooped. 8 hours later they were all gone.

The MGS5 was the same. A lot of YouTube reviews, read the MGS5 forum, downloaded and printed off the specs and went for a 3 hour test drive with my brother but wasn't sure on the figures the salesman came up with so I walked out. A couple of months later the £10k off offer on a pre-registered car arrived at my local dealer. One phone call and an appointment later that afternoon and my bank balance was a lot lighter.
 
Plug in hybrids, sometimes thought to be the worst of all worlds. Why lug around a piston engine along with it's gearbox, exhaust etc when you're driving on battery ? Why lug around a heavy battery when you're thrashing those pistons up and down ?
Hybrid vehicles are the most likely to catch fire, more than twice likely than petrol alone which themselves are vastly more likely to catch fire than EVs.
Going to have to pay the current 63.54p/litre inc. VAT duty and going up in September plus the 1.5p/mile EV duty.

Just my thoughts to help with the procrastination, sorry. :D
 
Plug in hybrids, sometimes thought to be the worst of all worlds. Why lug around a piston engine along with it's gearbox, exhaust etc when you're driving on battery ? Why lug around a heavy battery when you're thrashing those pistons up and down ?
Hybrid vehicles are the most likely to catch fire, more than twice likely than petrol alone which themselves are vastly more likely to catch fire than EVs.
Going to have to pay the current 63.54p/litre inc. VAT duty and going up in September plus the 1.5p/mile EV duty.

Just my thoughts to help with the procrastination, sorry. :D
If done right it seems a hybrid is more economical that straight petrol because it has regen.
And in some places like remote WA where it's hundred of km between anywhere, range anxiety in a BEV is very real.
I agree it doesn't make a lot of sense where there's public charges everywhere.
 
Plug in hybrids, sometimes thought to be the worst of all worlds. Why lug around a piston engine along with it's gearbox, exhaust etc when you're driving on battery ? Why lug around a heavy battery when you're thrashing those pistons up and down ?
Hybrid vehicles are the most likely to catch fire, more than twice likely than petrol alone which themselves are vastly more likely to catch fire than EVs.
Going to have to pay the current 63.54p/litre inc. VAT duty and going up in September plus the 1.5p/mile EV duty.

Just my thoughts to help with the procrastination, sorry. :D
Don't hold back...
:ROFLMAO:
 
If done right it seems a hybrid is more economical that straight petrol because it has regen.
And in some places like remote WA where it's hundred of km between anywhere, range anxiety in a BEV is very real.
I agree it doesn't make a lot of sense where there's public charges everywhere.
Just get one or the other, the pick and mix is a compromise for both.
 
Being serious for a second, we have two trains of thought at the moment.

I'm firmly in the EV camp, and top of my list is the Enyaq.

Mrs S is havering (which is different to procrastinating...:ROFLMAO:) and wants to consider hybrids, maybe the Geely.
I think if we were to have a hybrid, it should be a plug-in.

My thinking is that it could be run as an EV for all the local journeys, and be plugged in every night. Then for longer journeys, a mix of EV and fossil. The particular advantage of the Geely Starray I may just possibly have mentioned earlier is that it can be fast charged using a DC charger.
It won't be as cheap to run as a pure EV, I know.

One of Mrs S's caveats if we were to get an EV is that it should have a real world range in excess of 300 miles.

Given that she likes the, let's say, enthusiasm of EVs, the 270-odd mile range of our LR Trophy actually achieves 200.

Looking a several reports of the 25/26 Enyaq, real world mileage varies but seems to be around 290-310.
 
Just get one or the other, the pick and mix is a compromise for both.
I think it depends, on the usage, for long distances with no regen advantage not so good,
but short distances will be better than pure petrol, and if you only do long trips occasionally. you'll end up better in the end with no range anxiety
 
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You'd need to compare two cars (petrol and plug-in hybrid) that have the same petrol engine, for any comparison to be meaningful. :)
And I would imagine any gains in the hybrid accelerating on electric at the start of a long journey, will be lost in having to lug around an electric drive train and battery on that long journey.

Edit: Although you do have the extra momentum to keep you rolling further. Hmm, you are right @siteguru, you would have to do a comparison over the same journey. (Where are Mythbusters when you need them?) :LOL:
 
And I would imagine any gains in the hybrid accelerating on electric at the start of a long journey, will be lost in having to lug around an electric drive train and battery on that long journey.

Edit: Although you do have the extra momentum to keep you rolling further. Hmm, you are right @siteguru, you would have to do a comparison over the same journey. (Where are Mythbusters when you need them?) :LOL:
I can't imagine the Gen 2 Prius would be much fun to drive as an ICE only, no hope of getting between 700km and 1,000km on 50L of fuel, or pull out and overtake with the same level of ease ..... but I'd certainly look at a different battery pack, the NiMH battery was ok for its time, but a good LFP or Na+ battery would make it so much better.

T1 Terry
 
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