Pay per mile. Another blow for EV drivers

[MG Clive]

Still £75. Me personally about £250.

Oh yes, I'd still rather not have to pay it, £250 isn't nice

 

[Les burrows]

I to have just read the document and it makes no sense to me at all, surely an up front payments for mileage not yet driven can’t possibly be the right as it come down to guess work unless like Miles has said they credit you for mileage you have not completed.
So would it not be easier just to pay for what you have driven this could get very complicated for leasing companies and the DVLA who I assume will be collecting the payments. A better method would be to submit a photograph of your mileage along with your road tax application, or is the next addition to all vehicles will be something on the lines of a Smart meter.
God help us.
This has not been thought through.
Les

 

[tsedge]

I to have just read the document and it makes no sense to me at all, surely an up front payments for mileage not yet driven can’t possibly be the right as it come down to guess work unless like Miles has said they credit you for mileage you have not completed.

I agree.

So would it not be easier just to pay for what you have driven this could get very complicated for leasing companies and the DVLA who I assume will be collecting the payments.

Yes, it would be simpler. I suppose they want to guarantee their (our) money rather than pursue people for it. But pay for what you've used at least once a year (more often if you want), would be a whole lot better.

A better method would be to submit a photograph of your mileage along with your road tax application, or is the next addition to all vehicles will be something on the lines of a Smart meter.
God help us.
Les

Good idea. It is a consultation, so you can submit your views and reasoning.

 

[OriginalBigAl]

Would I be missing something here but, for those who can only use public charging and pay 20% VAT on each kilowatt. Will they be paying double tax? ie : 60p kwh , 12p in tax divide 3.4 to get per mile price, 3.5 p tax per mile, pre paid. ???? Would having a receipt for each session be admissible proof and be deductible? Nightmare!

 

[tsedge]

Would I be missing something here but, for those who can only use public charging and pay 20% VAT on each kilowatt. Will they be paying double tax? ie : 60p kwh , 12p in tax divide 3.4 to get per mile price, 3.5 p tax per mile, pre paid. ???? Would having a receipt for each session be admissible proof and be deductible? Nightmare!

No exemptions or discounts. How you charge isn't relevant. You pay the charge on your total mileage and the registered keeper is responsible for reporting it accurately and paying it in advance.

To be fair, fuel duty has VAT on top of it. So there is precedence for double taxing.

 

[tsedge]

I will be replying to the consultation and recommending a simpler scheme that is pay in arrears, not in advance with the actual mileage you've done.

 

[tsedge]

To be even clearer:

• When you use a rapid charger the price you are paying includes various taxes on energy production which are in the market price (most expensive energy in the world).
• Then you pay 20% VAT on top (tax on tax).
• Then you pay £195 VED tax (2nd year onwards).
• Then you pay 3p/mile eVED tax on top.
• Let's not forget Insurance Premium Tax, which adds to your policy cost.

And absolutely none of any of that is ring-fenced to spend on roads or transport.

 

[Black estate]

Right Nelly the elephant in the room , ain't 2028 after or near the next election

 

[tsedge]

Next election 2029 sadly

 

[Pebble]

Sorry if I've missed this in the past 15 pages - so 3p/mile plus RFL?

 

[Black estate]

Next election 2029 sadly

If they last that long or we end up in civil war

 

[MG Clive]

Sorry if I've missed this in the past 15 pages - so 3p/mile plus RFL?

Yes, 3p per mile from April 2028, RFL continues as it is now.

 

[tsedge]

Yes, 3p per mile from April 2028, RFL continues as it is now.

VED, not RFL. The roads are funded from general taxation now, it isn't ring fenced.

The new charge is eVED, on top of VED.

 

[Black estate]

Sorry if I've missed this in the past 15 pages - so 3p/mile plus RFL?

Yep

 

[OriginalBigAl]

The way Ian is racing up the league table, is he Rachels secret advisor?

 

[MG Clive]

The way Ian is racing up the league table, is he Rachels secret advisor?

Ian ?

 

[MG Clive]

VED, not RFL. The roads are funded from general taxation now, it isn't ring fenced.

Yes of course, I was just replying like for like

 

[jackois]

I pity you if your life is that rushed.

ditto... 2 hours driving, stop, charge the car (takes about 30 minutes) coffee, snack and a stretch of the legs has revolutionised a journey that used to be non stop, (apart from a stop and splash if needed} and get home wired to the moon from concentration... an hour longer but so much more chilled with the EV and charging stops...

 

[OriginalBigAl]

Ian ?

Try not to be nervous but the way this thread is going 5th place is will soon be making a late bid for the top spot.

 

[tsedge]

Yes of course, I was just replying like for like

Sorry, meant to correct the original poster, not you.