Thanks. Yes we seem to agree on more than I thought we did. I did try to make it clear that I was criticising specific aspects only but I probably could have and should have been clearer.

I think after 30 COP meetings with everything going in the opposite direction to that intended, the parties need to stop doing them and try a completely different approach: like perhaps focusing in mitigation and adaptation rather than prevention.

After all, the climate is always going to change anyway, we know ice ages are a thing too and even if our activities are accelerating change significantly, shouldn't we get better at coping with changes?

Without some very significant changes we're looking at the collapse of civilisation, the extinction of most of the planet's flora and fauna, and human beings reduced to subsistence living in small pockets of remaining habitat. Getting better at coping is not going to fix that.
 
Without some very significant changes we're looking at the collapse of civilisation, the extinction of most of the planet's flora and fauna, and human beings reduced to subsistence living in small pockets of remaining habitat.
That is complete and utter nonsense, and not remotely supported by any science.
 
That is complete and utter nonsense, and not remotely supported by any science.
That does depend very much on how many tipping points are triggered.

Climate change (as in weakened Atlantic currents) has just triggered an unprecedented polar vortex collapse & extreme SSW (sudden stratospheric warming) event, on 26/11/2025 to be precise.

North America will experience the consequences of the cold over the next 2 weeks and elsewhere extreme storms. The UK is looking to receive this late December / early January depending how this unprecedented / unforecastable event plays out.

Enjoy!
 
Weather isn't climate. Extreme weather has always existed and isn't new. People have made all sorts of "tipping point claims", e.g. about Coral Reefs, sea levels and many more that turned out to be untrue.

The "tipping point" I have noticed is the current obsession that every piece of bad weather is proof we are all doomed.
 
Weather isn't climate. Extreme weather has always existed and isn't new. People have made all sorts of "tipping point claims", e.g. about Coral Reefs, sea levels and many more that turned out to be untrue.

The "tipping point" I have noticed is the current obsession that every piece of bad weather is proof we are all doomed.
We had a massive drought in the summer in the late 70's and various massive constant dumpings of snow for prolonged periods over the years.

All these named wet and windy storms used to be affectionately known as winter in Scotland.
 
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