Replacement tyres

[Cabansail]

New Tyres fitted today. The Original Bridgestone Turanzas lasted for 34500 km. Could probably have got another couple of thousand but there is a bit of wet around.

Fitted a set of Yokohama Advan Sport. The V108's were not available, so settled with the V107's. There were no specials , so they cost a bit over AU$1400 fitted.

 

[Jamesrr]

Well I was thinking of keeping my original Turanzas on for one more trip over to the beach house and back (approx 3.5-4 thousand kms) but I've decided to put new ones on.

I've gotten 42500 kms out of them and our local Bob Jane has decent deal on the Pirelli Cinturato P7.
20% off on a set of 4 @ $342 fitted, so total of $1,095 all up.

Seems a decent deal (tyres are more expensive here in Oz than the UK from what I can see) and the reviews indicate they have good low rolling resistance.

Also to note that here in Oz we typically don't need "Winter" tyres ... It's always summer here don't you know

I always track my energy efficiency on these trips so I'll report back later how they perform.

 

[Cabansail]

Also to note that here in Oz we typically don't need "Winter" tyres ... It's always summer here don't you know

I will have you know it gets down to under 10 degrees here a few days each year!

 

[siteguru]

I'll have you know, it gets over 10 degrees here a few days each year!

 

[DerekH]

New Tyres fitted today. The Original Bridgestone Turanzas lasted for 34500 km. Could probably have got another couple of thousand but there is a bit of wet around.

Fitted a set of Yokohama Advan Sport. The V108's were not available, so settled with the V107's. There were no specials , so they cost a bit over AU$1400 fitted.

Got around 51,000kms on my original Bridgestones here in West Oz where it also rarely rains and runs high temps. Bridgestone dealer said thats a great run out of that set of originals. Did one rotation on them from new. As Bridgstones were not available at the time I went with the advice of the Bridgestone dealer and went with a Maxis EV rated set. Done around 5,000kms on these new ones and they provide a lot more grip and are much quieter as well. BUT... there has been a noticeable reduction in range and a higher average kw/100k.. Yet to see how they wear. But I am very disappointed in the range hit on these tyres. Perhaps thats how MG got their WLTP figures? So for exact same trips, driving style etc Where I used to get pretty much 60km (2 x 30km round trip work and back) using 10% of battery I now use 13%. Higher speeds seem to make it a lot worse on these tyres....

 

[Jamesrr]

As Bridgstones were not available at the time I went with the advice of the Bridgestone dealer and went with a Maxis EV rated set. Done around 5,000kms on these new ones and they provide a lot more grip and are much quieter as well. BUT... there has been a noticeable reduction in range and a higher average kw/100k.. Yet to see how they wear. But I am very disappointed in the range hit on these tyres.

Which Maxxis model exactly? I'm trying to find which one they might be and google seems to think there's a Maxxis VS-EV but I can't find a review of that tyre on "tyrereviews.com" which is my goto site.

Perhaps thats how MG got their WLTP figures? So for exact same trips, driving style etc Where I used to get pretty much 60km (2 x 30km round trip work and back) using 10% of battery I now use 13%. Higher speeds seem to make it a lot worse on these tyres....

Well I just had my Pirelli Cinturato P7's fitted this afternoon* and I'll be testing them on my long distance trip from Wednesday. Will be doing Sydney to Mildura (about 1,000kms) on the first leg.

I have excellent historical records for this and will be able to provide an update on their relative efficiency compared to the Turanza's shortly thereafter.

Tyrereviews has them as having excellent rolling resistance so I'm hopeful.

My local Bob Jane also had them at 20% off for a set so the 4 fitted cost $1,094.40 (672 Euro / 580 GBP).

Review to come!


*They inflated them to 2.9 bar which is good. I was going to ask them to inflate to 2.8 but forget to mention it. They went even higher so good on them!

 

[DerekH]

Which Maxxis model exactly? I'm trying to find which one they might be and google seems to think there's a Maxxis VS-EV but I can't find a review of that tyre on "tyrereviews.com" which is my goto site.

Well I just had my Pirelli Cinturato P7's fitted this afternoon* and I'll be testing them on my long distance trip from Wednesday. Will be doing Sydney to Mildura (about 100kms) on the first leg.
I have excellent historical records for this and will be able to provide an update on their relative efficiency compared to the Turanza's shortly thereafter.

Tyrereviews has them as having excellent rolling resistance so I'm hopeful.

My local Bob Jane also had them at 20% off for a set so the 4 fitted cost $1,094.40 (672 Euro / 580 GBP).

Review to come!


*They inflated them to 2.9 bar which is good. I was going to ask them to inflate to 2.8 but forget to mention it. They went even higher so good on them!

They are the the Maxxis Victra Sport 6 - an EV rated tyre and 235 / 45 R18 XL and were $1276 inc GST for 4 balanced and fitted.

 

[DerekH]

some info on it. replaces the VS5

Google Search

 

[johncolescarr]

Yea after driving today in the original I thought I might have a chance in the next Disney on Ice musical.


Guess I need to look at some Continental All Season Contact 2 Tyres. I believe the trophy is on 18 inch alloys for Tyres 235/45 R18. Right?

I put these on my trophy (also r18s) and they feel ok, if I’m honest they feel a bit less precise than the OEM ones that it came with but I feel more confident as I live rural

 

[Jamesrr]

A quick initial finding on the Pirelli Cinturato P7s.

They feel much nicer to drive with than the original Turanzas, but that comes at an efficiency cost around town.

I've only done 30km or so, but where before I'd be at 15kWh per 100km, I'm now seeing 18.5kWh per 100... That is a significant loss but around town it doesn't actually worry me. I prefer the better driving as it costs me essentially nothing to charge a little more often (my electricity tariff between 10am and 3pm is literally 0c per kWh) 50kWh pumped in via my 11kW wall charger costs zip...

Now if the energy consumption on long distance highway driving goes up from 19.5kWh per 100km that I used to get by another 3.5kWh then that would be bad... I suspect it won't make that big a difference at highway speed, but I'll know more on Wednesday

I just upped the tyre pressure from 42 to 46psi to see if that makes any difference...

[update] Yes, increasing the tyre pressure from 3.0 bar to 3.2 bar (46psi) has brought the around town energy consumption down from 18.5 to 17.5.
Still significantly higher than the 15 with the Turanzas, but the ride quality / grip is nicer...

 

[T1 Terry]

The tyres on the MG4 51 are only 12 mths old, 14,000km, but the way the wife drives, I'd be scared to improve the grip/handling, she scares me now.
I still have 2 x MG4's with near new tyres to cycle through before I have to actually buy any, so probably another 3 1/2 yrs before I have to make that sort of choice .......

T1 Terry

 

[jamakr4]

I am running on Falken Euro All Season tires (235 45 R18). I think they are great value and feel good - don't really have a comparison though as I bought them with the car.

 

[DerekH]

A quick initial finding on the Pirelli Cinturato P7s.

They feel much nicer to drive with than the original Turanzas, but that comes at an efficiency cost around town.

I've only done 30km or so, but where before I'd be at 15kW per 100km, I'm now seeing 18.5kW per 100... That is a significant loss but around town it doesn't actually worry me. I prefer the better driving as it costs me essentially nothing to charge a little more often (my electricity tariff between 10AM and 3PM is literally 0c per kWh) 50kWh pumped in via my 11kW wall charger costs zip...

Now if the energy consumption on long distance highway driving goes up from 19.5kW per 100km that I used to get by another 3.5kW then that would be bad... I suspect it won't make that big a difference at highway speed, but I'll know more on Wednesday

I just upped the tyre pressure from 42 to 46psi to see if that makes any difference...

[update] Yes, increasing the tyre pressure from 3.0 bar to 3.2 bar (46psi) has brought the around town energy consumption down from 18.5 to 17.5.
Still significantly higher than the 15 with the Turanzas, but the ride quality / grip is nicer...

Thats very interesting on the efficiency hit. I have found similar on the Maxxis I fitted and it is worse at highway speeds. So thats two brands that are worse than the original Bridgestones, hmmm. Thanks for the idea re tyre pressures. I will look to increase mine and see how that goes. No Pressure warnings as they are but might get some efficiency gains by upping them a little.

 

[securespark]

If your original tyre was the Bridgestone Turanza T005 EV it would have started life with less thread than most tyres, as they start out on 6mm. Bridgestone claims this is quieter for EVs. I don't know what the OE fitted Continentals start with though.

Yes, ours were T005s.

We had the rears done at 20k+ miles, but the fronts are still fine at 27k.

The tyre company contracted by the lease company won't rotate them.

Shrug...

In a previous life when we owned vehicles outright, we fitted Michelin CC.

One car they didn't make CCs for, so I had Weather Control A005 Evos fitted instead. It was a cracking tyre, rated XL with A rated braking. My lad drove 5 miles, not realising that someone had stuck a blade in the OSR tyre and it was completely flat before he started his journey!

But it performed really well and didn't damage the alloy one bit.

I personally like both the Cross Climate and the Weather Control.
If push came to shove, I would probably side with the CC. Having said that, we've had plenty of sets of CC+ and CC2s, but we have not had the opportunity to assess the new CC3s.

But the Bridgestone is a decent tyre and often a fair bit cheaper.

 

[Jamesrr]

Thats very interesting on the efficiency hit. I have found similar on the Maxxis I fitted and it is worse at highway speeds. So thats two brands that are worse than the original Bridgestones, hmmm.

Ok, an update.

The efficiency hit is only for city driving.

I got exactly the same efficiency on my 1,500km trip across from Sydney to Yorke Peninsula in South Australia.

I used exactly the same 7 charging stations as the last time over here and whilst the stops were slightly different, the total cost was almost identical.

$135.09 / 308.9 kWh vs $135.49 / 315.29 kWh

Reached the beach house with essentially the same remaining SoC.

So no degradation of highway efficiency at all and the ride is far superior.

Much quieter and more sure footed. There was part of the drive through heavy rain for a couple of hundred kms. I felt far more comfortable than with the Turanzas.

Thanks for the idea re tyre pressures. I will look to increase mine and see how that goes. No Pressure warnings as they are but might get some efficiency gains by upping them a little.

Definitely increase your tyre pressure. Mine are at 45psi/3.2 bar (cold).

I'm totally happy with these Pirelli Cinturato P7s. Superior to the Turanza where it counts for me.

 

[DerekH]

Ok, an update.

The efficiency hit is only for city driving.

I got exactly the same efficiency on my 1,500km trip across from Sydney to Yorke Peninsula in South Australia.

I used exactly the same 7 charging stations as the last time over here and whilst the stops were slightly different, the total cost was almost identical.

$135.09 / 308.9 kWh vs $135.49 / 315.29 kWh

Reached the beach house with essentially the same remaining SoC.

So no degradation of highway efficiency at all and the ride is far superior.

Much quieter and more sure footed. There was part of the drive through heavy rain for a couple of hundred kms. I felt far more comfortable than with the Turanzas.

Definitely increase your tyre pressure. Mine are at 45psi/3.2 bar (cold).

I'm totally happy with these Pirelli Cinturato P7s. Superior to the Turanza where it counts for me.

Good to hear. I have just increased tyre pressures in the Maxxis from around 35 up to 42 and the reduction on kw/100km is truly amazing. I get that higher tyre pressures will help economy but the benefit in the EV is very noticeable!! I am back to what I was with the original bridgestones. City now back to 13 to 13.5kw/100km and highway now back to 14, 15 kw/ 100km. And the maxxis much quieter and way more grip and better handling than the bridgestones. Time will tell on how many kms they get. Got 50,000kms out of the original bridgestones, some tread left and rotated front to back once.

 

[T1 Terry]

Good to hear. I have just increased tyre pressures in the Maxxis from around 35 up to 42 and the reduction on kw/100km is truly amazing. I get that higher tyre pressures will help economy but the benefit in the EV is very noticeable!! I am back to what I was with the original bridgestones. City now back to 13 to 13.5kw/100km and highway now back to 14, 15 kw/ 100km. And the maxxis much quieter and way more grip and better handling than the bridgestones. Time will tell on how many kms they get. Got 50,000kms out of the original bridgestones, some tread left and rotated front to back once.

I bet I don't see 50,000kms out of the original set .... unless I ban the wife from driving the car
I she gets better than 20kwh/100kms I know she was either stuck behind a Police car, or there was one following her ......

T1 Terry

 

[Jamesrr]

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Definitely increase your tyre pressure. Mine are at 45psi/3.2 bar (cold).

I'm going to have to drop the pressure a little. I'm going to try 44psi cold.

On the long drive I got a few alerts some tyres pressures were too high.

I tried to reset the TPMS value to reflect what I set the tyres to but apparently you can't do that.

The "correct" values are hard set and you can't change what is under or over inflated.

Annoying!

 

[siteguru]

At least it's interesting to know that there is indeed an overinflated warning .. I think you're the first to confirm that.

 

[Cabansail]

Just an update on the Yokohama Advan Sports V107s fitted recently.

I do not do any extreme driving but do like to take corners at speed which are safely within the capability of the vehicle, leaving some reserve.

The grip cornering and braking seem to be slightly superior to the original Bridgestones.
The road noise is just a tad louder, but this could be my imagination. Reviews did say the V108 EV are quieter than the V107.
Economy also seems slightly better, but have not done any data. The energy level seems slightly less than it did for similar trips before, but once again could be imagination.
Have not had the chance to try them in real wet conditions yet, just light rain which does not really test the drainage.
Wear is yet to be seen, as the Yokos have deeper tread then the Bridgestones and the majority of their use was by the original owner.

So far the Yokos seem very good.