12 volt battery

Davecut1

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Hi there MG4 owners, I recently had a problem with my 12 volt battery and was quoted £180 by my local dealer for a replacement. I think it's got a bit more life left in it but want to be prepared to replace it. So does anyone know the correct model number or even a better replacement at a reasonable price. Thanks Dave.
 
Go on fleebay and search car battery. If you enter your reg it will tell you.

I'm guessing c £60 if a bev.
 
I tried that and most popular models it's coming up with will not fit. I guess I will have to measure the dimensions and get the highest amp hour battery in that size.
 
Just for your info I have done a lot of searching on ebay and the battery required is an 063H and Yuasa do one it's also called a ybx5012 with a 5 year warranty for around £60 with free delivery. If you want a budget version Hankook also do one with 4 year warranty for around £40.
 
If you want to replace it, i suggest you get a lifepo4 battery. They are not much more expensive (starting around 90-100 Euros). Since there wont be any high current you can choose almost any battery. I went with a 40ah lifepo4. Since a Lithium can use 100percent of its capacity it equals around a 70-80ah lead battery .
 
If you want to replace it, i suggest you get a lifepo4 battery. They are not much more expensive (starting around 90-100 Euros). Since there wont be any high current you can choose almost any battery. I went with a 40ah lifepo4. Since a Lithium can use 100percent of its capacity it equals around a 70-80ah lead battery .
Aren't charging voltages different? If the charger is set up for lead acid, won't that cause a problem?
 
The charging curve is diffrent yes, but the voltages are very Close. A 4s lifepo4 has a charging Limit of 14.6v and lead acid range fron 14.4 to 14.8. The BMS in a lifepo4 battery will prevent Obercharge.

Have lifepo4 in my Toyota Prius for 11 years now and in my mg4 for about 1.5 years. Never had the slightest issuse.
 
FWIW, in my car the charging voltage on the screen typically shows 13.9V (when I'm sat in it in READY state and HVAC is running). In the iSmart app I've seen it as high as 14.4V.
 
If you can access the cell terminals, add one of these HA02 induction cell balancers. They say 48v but that's just 4 12v batteries being equalised, they will equalise LFP and sodium ion cells just fine as well.
as each lead acid battery dies, I just build a 4 cell one out of the best old LFP cells I have lying around (not so many these days since the fires) and never need to worry about them again if I add a cell equaliser to keep them all working together.
You can often find them where people are replacing their tired DIY EV conversion batteries, as long as they hold voltage under load, they will be fine for aux batteries and that is all an EV needs for a 12v battery

T1 Terry
 
You can do that , Just alot of Work for a simple aux batt, the prebuild ones from eBay or AliExpress have balancers and BMS integrated and really arent that expensive. I think i payed around 80 eur For mine. Not Wörth the hassle to build one yourself
 
Sorry, this got a bit carried away, the techo in me escaped ....

Been building lithium batteries for 14 yrs now and I know what works and what doesn't, and the toy BMS and balancer in those prepacked batteries simply don't work for the capacity battery they are connected across. I've had roughly 30 brought in for me to tell them what is wrong with them and write a report as to why they failed so they could make a warranty claim.

The BMS and balancer used in these drop-in batteries was designed for push bike and toy batteries. They use a loss balance system that creates a controlled short across the cell through a resistor at a set voltage point. These resistors turn electrical energy into heat energy .... inside a sealed plastic case. They are designed to balance 1ah cells, not 40Ah cells, so when that cell voltage goes high, it will take those little resistors 20hrs to burn off 1ah .... the resulting heat build up burns out the zener diode and the resistor just remains on continuously .... eventually fully discharging the cell and because the cells can't be accessed, the battery becomes a throw away ....

The induction coil cell equalisers charge up each induction coil connected to that cell, then disconnect from the cell and link together so the voltage is equalised across the induction coils, then it links back to the cell.

If the voltage across the induction coil is higher than the cell voltage, the induction coil discharges into the cell until the induction coil and cell voltage as the same ......

If the cell voltage is higher than the induction coil voltage, it charges the coil until the voltages are the same between the cell and the coil

Then the cycle repeats

This way, any cell that is a higher voltage, discharges some of it's capacity into the cells with a lower voltage, but this takes place at cycles per second, so the cells are balanced very quickly and remain balanced when charging or discharging .....

The upper voltage for an LFP cell is 3.6v, past that and heat is being generated inside the cell, heating the electrolyte till it separates depositing rubbish across the graphite material coated plate, reducing the rate lithium ions can be collected and released, and causes the lighter elements in the electrolyte to boil off and gas, this is what causes the cells to swell .....

14.4v across a 4 cell LFP battery is 3.6v per cell if perfectly balanced, if they are not perfectly balance, at least one cell will be at a much higher voltage and another cell at a much lower voltage, a battery in the process of being murdered ....

T1 Terry
 
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