Buyers Remorse And I Haven't Even Got It Yet

[tsedge]

Driven my relatives Mégane numerous times and it works better than it looks.
2 normal stalks
One for gear selector, like numerous other EVs
Big button on bottom right is drive modes, works perfect.
Paddles are regen levels up one side down the other.

Stalk for media/radio.

Physical buttons for fan speed, temp, heated seats, steering wheel, rear demister and physical buttons for lka, safety systems.

I agree that I could adapt to a Renault set up, given a bit of time I think anyone could. There are a lot of stalks though.

I really dislike the media/radio stalk being invisible (on some cars) behind the wheel, that seems a senseless choice.

It's a better safer setup than the 4 and my Born, not driven the IMs but they are also touch screen heavy

How is it safer? The simplicity of the 4 is good for me. I don't change regen settings while I drive and it has a really nice layout of on-wheel controls for various functions plus the two traditional stalks, which I find works really well.

 

[LenEV2016]

I agree that I could adapt to a Renault set up, given a bit of time I think anyone could. There are a lot of stalks though.

I really dislike the media/radio stalk being invisible (on some cars) behind the wheel, that seems a senseless choice.

How is it safer? The simplicity of the 4 is good for me. I don't change regen settings while I drive and it has a really nice layout of on-wheel controls for various functions plus the two traditional stalks, which I find works really well.

I would say it's safer because if you need to change anything whilst driving everything is to hand on a physical button, no menus to access
It is why MG listened to feedback and have moved back to more physical buttons

 

[tsedge]

I would say it's safer because if you need to change anything whilst driving everything is to hand on a physical button, no menus to access

There are some physical buttons with the MG4 and I adjust the AC via the right hand wheel buttons, media volume and phone pickup and ACC also via buttons on the wheel.

So for me, the only reason I need to touch any screens is CarPlay and I can use voice for that if I choose.

It is why MG listened to feedback and have moved back to more physical buttons

That and the changes to NCAP/EU rules that will require a minimum set of buttons in future.

It's a fair argument but I don't find myself reaching for the centre screen. Maybe that is just me.

 

[crispyjay]

Update……

Boss said yes to IM6 so ordering process started! Lease company indicating 16 weeks for delivery.

Big question is what colour? Think my preference is blue, white, grey and least favourite is black.

Nevis Blue with standard grey interior ordered!

 

[crispyjay]

Lease company has finally confirmed everything. Delivery estimated end March!

 

[dido]

As another member said too high expectations lead to massive disappointments.
I have started looking over replacing my Model 3 a year ago now.
Test drove all cars in the SUV EV segment with an upper cap of £60k.
There is no such thing as a perfect car. To give you a few examples:
Model Y. Amazing software; great efficiency, superchargers. Meeh interior, subpar quality for the price.
Sealion 7. Great quality interior, amazing cruiser on the motorway. Lame efficiency, mediocre software, no automations, slow charging, rides like a boat in the city.
ID7. fugly. sorry but it looks like an angry zeppelin. expensive and did not like the ride at all.
Enyaq. meeh looks, did not like the interior, everything is bloody optional...

I did not consider anything from France and Ford are just ridiculously priced.

Huyndai and Kia. Nice cars, good software and very nice ride. One recall after the other; still cars with batteries and BMs dying all over.

I ended up placing an order for the IM6 launch. I found the software easy to use and accommodating to my needs. Nice and plush interior. Quiet and comfy ride. Decent boot space. Efficiency crap? Yes. Do I care; no. 90% of my drive will be home charging. Rest 10% if I have to add one more stop for charging so be it. Fast charging will compensate.
But most importantly. Massive bang for your buck. I cannot think of another car in the segment with this gear, performance and abilities for this price.

Will it have issues? Probably. New model from a new brand. Will it piss me off sometimes? Definitely. Did my Tesla did the same? Oh yes.
Could I have gone for something else all together? Definitely. Almost started contemplating the MG S6 yesterday

But sometimes buying a car doesn't have to be pure logic and chasing the non existing perfection...

Spot on post....
have you considered the Geely Ex5?

 

[LenEV2016]

Spot on post....
have you considered the Geely Ex5?

He has his IM6 now, Geely range is disappointing for me

 

[Garrythompson]

Spot on post....
have you considered the Geely Ex5?

Greta reasoning..

As another member said too high expectations lead to massive disappointments.
I have started looking over replacing my Model 3 a year ago now.
Test drove all cars in the SUV EV segment with an upper cap of £60k.
There is no such thing as a perfect car. To give you a few examples:
Model Y. Amazing software; great efficiency, superchargers. Meeh interior, subpar quality for the price.
Sealion 7. Great quality interior, amazing cruiser on the motorway. Lame efficiency, mediocre software, no automations, slow charging, rides like a boat in the city.
ID7. fugly. sorry but it looks like an angry zeppelin. expensive and did not like the ride at all.
Enyaq. meeh looks, did not like the interior, everything is bloody optional...

I did not consider anything from France and Ford are just ridiculously priced.

Huyndai and Kia. Nice cars, good software and very nice ride. One recall after the other; still cars with batteries and BMs dying all over.

I ended up placing an order for the IM6 launch. I found the software easy to use and accommodating to my needs. Nice and plush interior. Quiet and comfy ride. Decent boot space. Efficiency crap? Yes. Do I care; no. 90% of my drive will be home charging. Rest 10% if I have to add one more stop for charging so be it. Fast charging will compensate.
But most importantly. Massive bang for your buck. I cannot think of another car in the segment with this gear, performance and abilities for this price.

Will it have issues? Probably. New model from a new brand. Will it piss me off sometimes? Definitely. Did my Tesla did the same? Oh yes.
Could I have gone for something else all together? Definitely. Almost started contemplating the MG S6 yesterday

But sometimes buying a car doesn't have to be pure logic and chasing the non existing perfection...

Great reasoning Nik, and it's a similar story for me..

I have just had a BMW iX on lease for two years. To be honest, I would have one again, but the price has risen so much, I couldn't justify it..

The iM6 seems to have everything you normally have to pay for as an extra, and is exceptional value for money.

Yes, it would be nice if it were more efficient, but home charging is relatively inexpensive, so it's not a significant issue for me.

The reviews that have been negative, have not swayed me from my decision. I've also considered the Polestar (which I've had before), but they are so overpriced for what they deliver, and after a test drive, I preferred the iM6 to the Polestar 3!

I hope they can resolve the software issues, as that would be a flag not to buy from this manufacturer again..

I'm surprised after all the effort to make this car so technically advanced, that it doesn't have a HUD and a feature where when you approach the car, or walk away from it, it does not operate the locks automatically.

My Renault Scenic E-Tech (which my other half drives), has that feature and believe me, it is very useful!.

My one question, which is important to me..

The sound system? Is it, or can it be made exceptional, by making a few tweaks to the settings?

Well, here's to the new iM6 .. Best of luck to everyone who has joined the experience!

 

[Everest]

Geely range is disappointing for me

I never liked Volvos either.

 

[LenEV2016]

I never liked Volvos either.

I like Polestars but the comparable costs are high.

Tesla model 3 LR rwd £44/45k

IM 5 LR £44/45k

Polestar 2 LR rwd £48k

Polestar is tighter in the back seats and after all this time they never got rid of the big tunnel on the rear floor

 

[tsedge]

I have just had a BMW iX on lease for two years. To be honest, I would have one again, but the price has risen so much, I couldn't justify it..

The iM6 seems to have everything you normally have to pay for as an extra, and is exceptional value for money.

Yes, it would be nice if it were more efficient, but home charging is relatively inexpensive, so it's not a significant issue for me.

The reviews that have been negative, have not swayed me from my decision. I've also considered the Polestar (which I've had before), but they are so overpriced for what they deliver, and after a test drive, I preferred the iM6 to the Polestar 3!

Yep, the value for money is exceptional. I really don't know how some manufacturers are going to sustain volume with their high prices.

I hope they can resolve the software issues, as that would be a flag not to buy from this manufacturer again..

MG/IM tend to fix things, there have been a lot of updates for the MG4. They aren't always quick to fix, but they do eventually get there. Also they are launching over-the-air updates in the new year (starting with the IM models), which should make it easier to get fixes.

I'm surprised after all the effort to make this car so technically advanced, that it doesn't have a HUD and a feature where when you approach the car, or walk away from it, it does not operate the locks automatically.

On the HUD, I think that is because this car has been on sale in China for a while now and didn't come with a HUD there. The new MGS6 has one, so I'd expect this to come to IMs at facelift time (if not before).

On the locks, this is fixable in software, so if they want to change it, it could come in an update.

My one question, which is important to me..

The sound system? Is it, or can it be made exceptional, by making a few tweaks to the settings?

It is certainly worth playing with the settings. It is supposed to be pretty good, albeit not class leading.

 

[NikLiverpool]

Spot on post....
have you considered the Geely Ex5?

Apologies for the late response. Got the IM6 already
Wife though has the Atto3 and the Geely could be her next car

 

[NikLiverpool]

Yep, the value for money is exceptional. I really don't know how some manufacturers are going to sustain volume with their high prices.

MG/IM tend to fix things, there have been a lot of updates for the MG4. They aren't always quick to fix, but they do eventually get there. Also they are launching over-the-air updates in the new year (starting with the IM models), which should make it easier to get fixes.

On the HUD, I think that is because this car has been on sale in China for a while now and didn't come with a HUD there. The new MGS6 has one, so I'd expect this to come to IMs at facelift time (if not before).

On the locks, this is fixable in software, so if they want to change it, it could come in an update.

It is certainly worth playing with the settings. It is supposed to be pretty good, albeit not class leading.

Agree with all the points made.
As for the sound I have noticed that when I use the integrated spotify or radio for the matter the sound quality (after a bit of tweaking at the settings) is brilliant.

When I switch to android auto though it is bad. I may have to dig into different settings for android and see if it possible to save them as a different profile.

 

[tsedge]

Agree with all the points made.
As for the sound I have noticed that when I use the integrated spotify or radio for the matter the sound quality (after a bit of tweaking at the settings) is brilliant.

When I switch to android auto though it is bad. I may have to dig into different settings for android and see if it possible to save them as a different profile.

Is that because you are using bluetooth audio via AA? Bluetooth audio quality is poor. I don't know much about AA (I'm a CarPlay man) but I heard from others this can be an issue with AA using the bluetooth connection rather than direct audio to the car's systems.

@siteguru Any AA wisdom you can add?

 

[Everest]

@siteguru Any AA wisdom you can add?

Didn't know @siteguru had a drink problem

 

[NikLiverpool]

Is that because you are using bluetooth audio via AA? Bluetooth audio quality is poor. I don't know much about AA (I'm a CarPlay man) but I heard from others this can be an issue with AA using the bluetooth connection rather than direct audio to the car's systems.

@siteguru Any AA wisdom you can add?

Right; I was not aware of this.
Having a Tesla before I never got the chance to use Android auto.
Will look into it; thank you!

 

[siteguru]

Is that because you are using bluetooth audio via AA? Bluetooth audio quality is poor. I don't know much about AA (I'm a CarPlay man) but I heard from others this can be an issue with AA using the bluetooth connection rather than direct audio to the car's systems.

@siteguru Any AA wisdom you can add?

I thought BT was only used for the phone connection (even when connected via AA), and everything else used the AA connection (wired or wireless as appropriate)?

But a quick search suggests that native wireless AA (i.e. the type built in to a car, not the type we use via wireless dongles) uses Bluetooth.

Android Auto and Bluetooth: A Perfect Pairing for a Seamless Driving Experience - Easy Tech Solver

Android Auto has revolutionized the way we interact with our smartphones while driving. By providing a safe and intuitive way to access various apps and

easytechsolver.com

 

[T1 Terry]

I use the patch lead from the phone to the audio inlet in the centre consul box, and the sound is acceptable, but then, I only have 30% hearing left after yrs of dyno tuning and pit crew at drag race meetings ..... so maybe my audio acceptance level is a rather low bar ......

I have zero hearing in the dizzy blonde/ little kids speaking frequency range, miss being able to hear the kids ......

T1 Terry

 

[Garrythompson]

Pretty much sums it up but you say nothing from France is that because perceived reliability or nothing in the segment?

As the scenic was a previous car of the year (although a whole lot smaller) and we can't really question reliability when this forum and BYDs is littered with issues with aftersales.

Buying a car is a personal choice and only you can make it, I wouldn't be swayed by Facebook.

I have the Renault Scenic E-Tech, and it is a really nice car.. My other half uses it, but it has pretty much everything and it's quiet nice to drive and is pretty good as far as efficiency goes..

The boot is a bit deep, but otherwise really good.. I never thought I would find myself saying anything positive about a French car.. But yes, it's very good..

It even locks the doors and unlocks when you are in proximity.. That really is useful and you get used to it.

I ordered the iM6 to replace my BMW IX, which really was an awesome car, but the price of them on lease has now gone through the roof.

The iM6 seems excellent value for money, and it has all the toys.. However, i will miss the HUD and I do wish it had proximity locking and unlocking..

 

[lokych]

I thought BT was only used for the phone connection (even when connected via AA), and everything else used the AA connection (wired or wireless as appropriate)?

But a quick search suggests that native wireless AA (i.e. the type built in to a car, not the type we use via wireless dongles) uses Bluetooth.

Android Auto and Bluetooth: A Perfect Pairing for a Seamless Driving Experience - Easy Tech Solver

Android Auto has revolutionized the way we interact with our smartphones while driving. By providing a safe and intuitive way to access various apps and

easytechsolver.com

Not sure how reliable this article is. Wireless Android Auto and even wired AA use use BT only for phone functions which is low bitrate. Audio and video use the USB or WiFi direct to get sufficient bandwidth. BT streaming under A2dP protocol isn't too bad anyway. A noticeable drop will be HFP. There could be a few possibilities why audio streaming qualities are poor. It could be your streaming quality on yr phone app could be set to low on cellular data.