Car Froze unable to exit car!!

[Ayoull]

That’s frightening about the vans - but the fact you have smash windows or break parcel shelves or anything is unacceptable- it’s not know if anyone has had the update and still been locked in.

No you shouldn't but this is the industry norm on cars and vans it appears, if you look on Google range rover, mercedes, seat, ford, Hyundai all the same

 

[Buster72]

There is a way its the rear hatch which can be opened from inside if you can get at it bloody ridiculous.
Les

Apology if this is obvious. But I have just checked the hints and tips thread and could not find anything about how to do this.

 

[siteguru]

I think it was mentioned in the original Locked In thread. Plus it's covered by the owner manual (pg248/249).

 

[Simler51]

The OP. (It's obvious).

I take OP means ‘opening post’ which was not obvious to me. Or does it mean something else?

 

[siteguru]

Opening Poster (i.e. the thread starter) as well as Opening Post - it serves 2 purposes.

 

[Simler51]

Opening Poster (i.e. the thread starter) as well as Opening Post - it serves 2 purposes.

Thanks for that siteguru

 

[TheArcher]

Then either they are wrong or this is a new failure not fixed by the last safety recall. Definitely worth taking your experience to DVSA and getting them to open an investigation.

Edit: There is an emergency boot release to escape through the back hatch.

I know I would not physically be able to get through to the boot. I guess I'll have to get one of those emergency hammers.
Is it just the MG4 which has this problem?

 

[bowfer]

I know I would not physically be able to get through to the boot. I guess I'll have to get one of those emergency hammers.
Is it just the MG4 which has this problem?

In MG world, it would appear so.
Out of every car in the world, who knows.

 

[Eber]

From the time since my post earlier about this being the norm on cars, I've discovered it's even the norm on vans which have a steel bulk head to contend with, so while it's no consolation could be worse, imagine being locked in a van where you have a steel bulkhead between you and the "emergency" means of exiting the vehicle.

Well, you will also not be able to get into the boot in a notchback/sedan without foldable rear seats. As far as I know an emergency boot release is mandatory to prevent people getting trapped in the boot, but not necessarily for exiting the car from the passenger seats.

Most cars with electronic door release seem to have redundant emergency releases:

How to Escape Your Car If the Electronic Door Release Fails - Consumer Reports

From Tesla to Lexus, more and more vehicles have doors with an electronic button instead of a manual latch. Consumer Reports lets you know how to open them in an emergency.

www.consumerreports.org

To be fair, the MG4 door release seems to be mechanical, but can be dead locked in some cases. Anyway I would expect a physical possibility to open the door when there is a power failure or electronic fault (like in the article linked above).

Or I'll just wait for the MG4 convertible to be released. ;-)

 

[bowfer]

Or I'll just wait for the MG4 convertible to be released. ;-)

The roof will jam shut

 

[Ayoull]

Well, you will also not be able to get into the boot in a notchback/sedan without foldable rear seats. As far as I know an emergency boot release is mandatory to prevent people getting trapped in the boot, but not necessarily for exiting the car from the passenger seats.

Most cars with electronic door release seem to have redundant emergency releases:

How to Escape Your Car If the Electronic Door Release Fails - Consumer Reports

From Tesla to Lexus, more and more vehicles have doors with an electronic button instead of a manual latch. Consumer Reports lets you know how to open them in an emergency.

www.consumerreports.org

To be fair, the MG4 door release seems to be mechanical, but can be dead locked in some cases. Anyway I would expect a physical possibility to open the door when there is a power failure or electronic fault (like in the article linked above).

Or I'll just wait for the MG4 convertible to be released. ;-)

On power failure the deadlock should disengage as it solenoid operated from the descriptions I have seen, so once the 12v supply disconnects the solenoid will disengage as it is no longer energised

 

[Ian Key]

On power failure the deadlock should disengage as it solenoid operated from the descriptions I have seen, so once the 12v supply disconnects the solenoid will disengage as it is no longer energised

That would explain why the AA disconnect the 12v battery when called out.

 

[tsedge]

On power failure the deadlock should disengage as it solenoid operated from the descriptions I have seen, so once the 12v supply disconnects the solenoid will disengage as it is no longer energised

So if I fitted a battery disconnect inside the passenger cabin, it would unlock?

 

[Ayoull]

So if I fitted a battery disconnect inside the passenger cabin, it would unlock?

Based on what I've seen yes, but what should happen and what does are what making engineering interesting

Update : just thought worth clarify by unlock I mean disengage the deadlock not magically unlock the doors.

But again this is based on descriptions of how the system functions opposed to actually stripping down my car to see how it works.

 

[the briggie]

But why should you need to in the first place...that's what frustrates me

 

[zAndy1]

Is there any update on whether this car had the update that's supposed to prevent this? If it had that's rather worrying and I don't want to put my wife in a situation where it might happen to her , especially with our 2yr old grandson in the car

 

[Hallix73]

On the escape issue.
Shame the drivers side quarter light, next to door mirror, was able to be opened or removed from inside. Like my Stag has.
That way the key could be passed out to another person or passer by to open the door from the metal key.
Hopefully the update removes this from ever happening again.

 

[bowfer]

Is there any update on whether this car had the update that's supposed to prevent this? If it had that's rather worrying and I don't want to put my wife in a situation where it might happen to her , especially with our 2yr old grandson in the car

Given the update robbed me of the ability to keep lane assist switched off and I now have a ‘procedure’ to do every journey, I’d rather take my chances with being locked in….

 

[zAndy1]

Given the update robbed me of the ability to keep lane assist switched off and I now have a ‘procedure’ to do every journey, I’d rather take my chances with being locked in….

Hmmm that's a shame , so you have to disable it every time? Still think I'd rather have to do that than face the prospect of being locked in the car though

 

[bowfer]

Hmmm that's a shame , so you have to disable it every time? Still think I'd rather have to do that than face the prospect of being locked in the car though

I said it in jest really.
It just highlights the ineptitude of MG that sorting one thing ruins another.

I count the days until I’m away from this hopeless manufacturer.
Looking at a post about someone smelling burning as they were stuck inside, I’d have laughed like a maniac to watch mine burn from the safety of a verge.
Perhaps danced around it naked, like a pagan ritual.