Limited Battery Capacity, Short Range, High Purchase Cost means the EV revolution may face a natural death sooner.. .

ARealHuman

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Nuclear power is the absolutely most environmentally friendly way to make electricity there is.
Except when it isn't - see Japan.

One should build them inside mountains or into the ground for safety reasons if you ask me,
The environmental impact of that alone would be massive. Imagine all the machinery, spoil (taking it out and putting it somewhere), transportation, logistics, people etc.

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with you, just trying to emphasise that each option has it's pros and cons as we all know. Maybe nuclear fusion? ;)
 

Noraf142

Member
Like I said, currently it's the best option.
And, Japan is a bad example, as the problem there where lacking maintenance, and poor planning of the back up generator placement. The plant itself survived the tsunami......
Chernobyl wouldn't be a good example either, as those plants are obsolete too.
 

ARealHuman

Member
I dont think either is a bad example as the fact that something went wrong, regardless of the cause, shows these type of facilities - as well as others - can be subject to catastrophes.
 

Noraf142

Member
Well, it could be used against all things man made then. Just add in Murphys law to the equation ?
That said, there are more people being seriously sick, and that dies, because of coal plants alone each year, than to nuclear powerplant failures from the start of them.... And the negative environment impact from those plants are also worse than the nuclear plants. So, even with the mishaps that have happened, and those that will in the future, nuclear is the way to go, environmentally speaking. Also helps that they are the most stable plants aswell, and not affected by weather (hydro/wind and solar), not as demanding in resources as coal, gass or oil plants are. Yes, you need a lot of concrete, and you need to mine, and refine the fuel for it, but it's not quite as bad as the fossil fueled ones.

(Really hate that they won't allow new nuke plants built here in Norway)
 

KasEV

Active member
Yes the debate is one of relative risk and comparable risk.
I hope we are going in the right direction by going electric but I just have doubts that the problem of range/ battery capacity, High Purchase Cost and poor electricity infrastructure make us ready for going electric.
The electricity and batteries have to come from somewhere and it is becoming clearer that this dream of "green electric energy" is indeed just a dream far from reality.
Also Car manufacturers think only about money so if for now more money is being made with petrol and diesel then that is what they will manufacture till it becomes illegal or less profitable.
 

KasEV

Active member
This week the EU has put in a competition that shows there is now a recognition that unless battery and charging issues are solved the future of EV's will be a difficult one.
£10million is being offered to any firm that can produce a battery with a range similar to that of a run tank average petrol car and which takes the same time to charge from 0 to 100% as it takes to fill the average petrol car's tank.
What do you think can this be achieved?
 

Mike

New member
Has anyone mentioned oil yet? The transportation of oil around the globe, it’s refining is never taken into consideration in the ice vs EV, and neither is the undisclosed cost in electricity of refining petrol/oil and all the wars that have happened that were only to do with controlling oil supplies.
 

Mike SOS

New member
If you don't use your car every day Is solar panels a realistic way to charge the battery? If so how many panels would you need?
 

ARealHuman

Member
If you don't use your car every day Is solar panels a realistic way to charge the battery? If so how many panels would you need?
There is some interesting info at the MG EV Owners club here - not sure if it helps, but followng the links through might answer your question.
 

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