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I'm starting to really want an IM5 Long Range, which is a bad sign for my bank account! 

When I went last Tuesday, I had not checked the website deal. Or maybe I did and forgot about it. Anyway, when I contacted them in August, he was all welcoming and genial. And fair enough, the finance packages have not been finalised yet. But I remembered the Sealion 7 deals which is similiarly priced. I said 7k annual mileage, payment around £500 a month, deposit not more than 5k. His initial numbers were 9k deposit! Because he said I have a shortfall in my partex of 4k. After some to and fro, he said he could improve the part ex and bring it down to 6k deposit. I said I would think about it. I also asked him to give me a breakdown, which he refused. All just verbal and scribbles on a piece of paper.Personally I would be weary.
I understand that price haggling is part of the process but what you describe takes it to another level.
What I find weird is the fact that he would not match the site offer. Can you elaborate on this? Is this the finance contribution? the APR? What exactly?
That would be the thing to put me off.
Not yet had the time to check other sites. But my first car they gave me a good partex (went from saloon to SUV because of a new baby!). And yes, the limited editions are sought after because of the trick parts that they have (LSD, semi-active suspension). and ultimately, the PCP repayments should cover for the depreciation. Ceramic coating, yea, that's off my own back. But keeps the paintwork looking good!I see what you mean with the finance. 9k deposit is a lot considering the mileage and deposit you mentioned.
Hell; I am putting in a 10k trade in and for a year PCP with 12k miles per year it came to 450 per month for the launch version.
As for the trade in value; I am not sure if he tried to skin you or not. Have you tried any other sites to see what will you be getting?
You mention launch edition and ceramic coating; sorry to say this but extras don't count for nothing at trade in values.
To give you an example; my Tesla has the FSD. Foolish of me but lets not go there. Even Tesla doesn't pay for it if I was to trade it in. I mean even on their PCP calculator if you spec for it you get the same residual without it...and it is £6.8k now!
If I were you I would look into the level of after sales service that you have received so far. If you are happy with it stick with them. Otherwise walk away.
As with all ev's at the moment I wouldn't guarantee on coming out of any PCP deal in positive equity, unless you obviously put a hefty deposit down, even then I'd be expecting to write some of that offNot yet had the time to check other sites. But my first car they gave me a good partex (went from saloon to SUV because of a new baby!). And yes, the limited editions are sought after because of the trick parts that they have (LSD, semi-active suspension). and ultimately, the PCP repayments should cover for the depreciation. Ceramic coating, yea, that's off my own back. But keeps the paintwork looking good!
In terms of after sales, as I said, the rare times I needed it, they've been ok. I get nightmare stories of other owners having problems with their new cars but haven't had any problems with my two from them. But they were not MGs, so not sure if the MG support will be as reliable. But yes, there is that aspect of the devil you know. I would rather a good dealer that does a good PDI, and deliver trouble free cars and no after sales required than having to find out how good their support is!
Not yet had the time to check other sites. But my first car they gave me a good partex (went from saloon to SUV because of a new baby!). And yes, the limited editions are sought after because of the trick parts that they have (LSD, semi-active suspension). and ultimately, the PCP repayments should cover for the depreciation. Ceramic coating, yea, that's off my own back. But keeps the paintwork looking good!
In terms of after sales, as I said, the rare times I needed it, they've been ok. I get nightmare stories of other owners having problems with their new cars but haven't had any problems with my two from them. But they were not MGs, so not sure if the MG support will be as reliable. But yes, there is that aspect of the devil you know. I would rather a good dealer that does a good PDI, and deliver trouble free cars and no after sales required than having to find out how good their support is!
I'm part-exing a ICE car.As with all ev's at the moment I wouldn't guarantee on coming out of any PCP deal in positive equity, unless you obviously put a hefty deposit down, even then I'd be expecting to write some of that off
He means when you come to the end of the PCP with your new purchase - a part ex will help, for sure. I think premium vehicles will hold their value better than others, but the residuals on MG4s and MG5s have been very low, partly caused by all MG's discounts.I'm part-exing a ICE car.
Residuals are significantly higher for premium vehicles (ignoring the ultra expensive market). It isn't the same at all levels. Teslas, for example, generally command better residuals than MGs.Residual value of EVs is horrendous, regardless brand or specs.
Actually as I understand it the main factors in the UK are not technology but:I reckon the main reason behind this is the almost daily advances of technology related to them.
When I got my model 3 the only proper EVs in the market with a sensible (to a point) price were the Leaf, model 3 and I pace
Now there are hundreds of different models in all categories.
300 miles range seems to be the norm, not a premium.
The IM for example, I reckon in 4 years it will come with solid state batteries.
Imagine where the residuals of the current ones will go....
Hi lokych , I agree with your car review completely. There are a few problems that I hope a firmware upgrade will fix, but overall I love it. It’s a very comfortable, fast, and a pleasure to drive. At 78 years old, I don’t want another race car anyway, three was enough.New to the brand and EVs here. Test drove the IM6 a few days ago. Totally blew me out of the water. Totally don't get the negative reviews. I think some just don't get it. For the Chinese, cars are luxury items. Not toys. The more premium, the more it should be comfortable and luxurious. The IM6 is like this bubble that insulates you from the outside. You can still perceive it, but it's definitely more distant. Overall, it just feels like a high speed train, gliding smoothly across all terrain. Steering is not lively and very neutral. Yes it is not "fun", But fun can get tiring on long journeys. I have a young child on board. I want fun, I go for an MX5 or RX8. Overall very impressed. Even the driving aids can be tuned down to be hardly intrusive. Didn't notice it much.
So why have I not pulled the trigger? Dealers. Despite the offers advertised on the MG website, the dealer I went to quoted me something much more expensive. And low-balled the car I bought from them 2 years ago for part-ex! So I made another enquiry on the MG website and another dealer got in touch. I told them I am ready to talk business. No reply since. And I am potentially going to get the S5 as well. I would think they would be trying hard to get my business. But hey, I get it. Plenty of business. Who cares about me? Do you all have any decent dealers to recommend?