On the road charging

[barry7153]

Thanks for all your help. Silly questions - when do I lock the car and will I have to initiate charging from the mg ismart app. I'm old.

 

[kenneth104]

Thanks for all your help. Silly questions - when do I lock the car and will I have to initiate charging from the mg ismart app. I'm old.

Commercial charging on the road does not require MG APP operation. I don’t know about home charging. The functions of MG APP in China are different.

 

[MGFour]

Thanks for all your help. Silly questions - when do I lock the car and will I have to initiate charging from the mg ismart app. I'm old

You dont need to access the MG app at all and lock your car if you are leaving it after you have plugged in and charge started

 

[Rolfe]

You don't need the app for home charging either (depending on which charger you have I suppose) although sometimes it can be useful. I mainly tend to use the app to monitor the progress of the charge.

If you're using an ordinary debit card the only wrinkle is whether you plug in first or tap your card first. Some chargers like it one way, some the other, some don't care. Just follow the instructions on the screen (or on the charger itself).

Also, the charge may not start immediately. Don't panic if you have to give it a couple of minutes even. Once it's all up and running you can lock the car and go away, come back for something and open and relock it, decide to sit in the car with the heating on, it's all fine and won't interrupt the charge.

When you're done it can sometimes be tricky to figure out how to stop the charge and disconnect the car, with some chargers. I find that the controls on the infotainment screen (tap the charging menu) pretty much always work.

 

[Tight Git]

Thanks for all your help. Silly questions - when do I lock the car and will I have to initiate charging from the mg ismart app. I'm old.

Locking or unlocking the car should have no effect on rapid DC CCS charging unlike on AC type 2 charging.

If yo use the Tesla app to start the charge just follow the on-screen instructions on your phone after selecting the charger to use. As regards card payment - no idea as I have never used that method.

No such thing as a silly question!

 

[Rolfe]

I think he doesn't want to use apps though.

 

[siteguru]

One tip for charging at a rapid charger ... when you plug in the charger cable to the car, make sure to apply an upward force (as well as the pushing force) until the charge starts - this is because the weight of the cable can sometimes cause a poor connection for the control pins in the top part of the charger plug (i.e. the weight makes the top part of the plug pull out slightly), and so make starting the charge problematic. The upward force counteracts the cable weight and makes things more reliable and consistent.

 

[barry7153]

Did the trip and charging turned out to be a doddle, but for 79p a KW it should be. Absolute ripoff.

 

[Loveclose]

I've only used Ionity and Tesla - mostly Tesla as they are the cheapest.
Like others here, I have the Tesla app which shows Tesla charging points for non-Tesla cars only.
Registering a payment card is not too much of an issue. Getting to the chargers to find you have no signal in remote areas is more of a problem! I haven't had that happen to me yet........!!

 

[JonnyG]

Just wanting to check that all non-Tesla Tesla chargers are still available for everyone to use after 1st November ?

I know that only a limited amount are currently available to non-Tesla cars but just wanting to check that is still the case as I was reading/watching that Porsche chargers are now only available to Porsche owners as they don't comply with new regs.

 

[MDWMG]

Did the trip and charging turned out to be a doddle, but for 79p a KW it should be. Absolute ripoff.

In September, 3 weeks after taking delivery of the car, we did virtually the same trip, but the other way round.
If I had seen your post before you went I would have suggested the Tesla superchargers at Amesbury; only 48p when we used them, and so fast the car was charged before our lunch was served in the Harvester next door.

 

[Loveclose]

Just wanting to check that all non-Tesla Tesla chargers are still available for everyone to use after 1st November ?

I know that only a limited amount are currently available to non-Tesla cars but just wanting to check that is still the case as I was reading/watching that Porsche chargers are now only available to Porsche owners as they don't comply with new regs.

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I'd like to know the answer to this one as well, please, as I'm planning to use the Tesla Banbury and Harrogate chargers this month on a longish trip.....
Both appear on my Tesla app as a non-Tesla owner, so according to the app, they still are open to all.
Thanks!

 

[MDWMG]

I'd like to know the answer to this one as well, please, as I'm planning to use the Tesla Banbury and Harrogate chargers this month on a longish trip.....
Both appear on my Tesla app as a non-Tesla owner, so according to the app, they still are open to all.
Thanks!

Showing as open to all on the website

https://www.tesla.com/en_gb/findus?v=2&bounds=68.1790306750979%2C14.295960593750028%2C36.50813735478976%2C-21.16790659374999&zoom=5&filters=party%2Cnacs&search=United%20Kingdom

 

[DixieTGS]

The new new requirements have to be implemented by 24th November 24.

Public Charge Point Regulations 2023 guidance

www.gov.uk

Tesla may disable their chargers that don't comply for non Tesla owners at any time until then.

The hope is any V4 chargers will remain available as they can do contactless. If I read it correctly, then even these may not comply in a years time due to roaming requirements (but I only skim read so not certain).

I don't remember seeing the charger type(s) for each site listed on the Tesla app or website. Some info on this is available on Zapmap (V4 if contactless listed) or supercharge.info. Neither are Tesla sites and so may not be accurate. You have to set filters to see just the open to all Tesla sites.

 

[MDWMG]

The new new requirements have to be implemented by 24th November 24.

Public Charge Point Regulations 2023 guidance

www.gov.uk

Tesla may disable their chargers that don't comply for non Tesla owners at any time until then.

The hope is any V4 chargers will remain available as they can do contactless. If I read it correctly, then even these may not comply in a years time due to roaming requirements (but I only skim read so not certain).

I don't remember seeing the charger type(s) for each site listed on the Tesla app or website. Some info on this is available on Zapmap (V4 if contactless listed) or supercharge.info. Neither are Tesla sites and so may not be accurate. You have to set filters to see just the open to all Tesla sites.

That's a very useful link, thank you.

If I understand it correctly, it means that existing public Tesla Superchargers will have to offer contactless within 12 months of opening the site to non-Tesla EVs:

"Proprietary charge point networks which subsequently open for public use have one year to offer contactless. If the network opens to the public on a site-by-site basis each individual public site has one year to offer contactless from the date at which the site opens for public use."

So some v3 Tesla Superchargers may remain available to us after 24th November, depending on when individual sites were made public, and also whether Tesla decide to keep them available while they legally can.

 

[DixieTGS]

The regs came in November 23 and V4s started to be installed August 23 so the number V3s that remain public will be very small if not 0 unfortunately.

 

[LukeTim]

I use the OVO Charge App (I believe similar to Octopus Electroverse) and it has some decent discounts. I've only just got a home charger installed but until now I'd been using a 150kW RAW Charging charger nearby which on the OVO app was 58p/kWh (52p for me as I pay the £2 per month basic subscription). The usual rate for the same charger is 79p/kWh.

The other chargers on the app don't seem to have such great discounts but obviously there are some.

 

[Anon70]

Not seen any changes to availability of Tesla chargers to non Telsa cars on the app or their website

 

[Rolfe]

We won't see the change until 24th November, if it's going to happen. I'm rather banking on Trentham Gardens on 22nd November. My return journey is on 24th November, so by that point, God alone knows.

 

[DixieTGS]

We won't see the change until 24th November, if it's going to happen. I'm rather banking on Trentham Gardens on 22nd November. My return journey is on 24th November, so by that point, God alone knows.

If you visit on the 22nd, have a good look around. It may have 8 V3s & 10 V4s or vice versa depending on which info you look at. The photo on zapmap shows 2 rows with different charger types which backs that up.

I also notice that zapmap doesn't show contactless for some sites that definitely do have it.