Post your MG ZS EV battery SOH data please

[macd2401]

Finally managed to get this done today.

SoH 100%
8632 miles
11 months old
118 charges
80% rapid, 20% AC
Roughly 45 charges to full, around half on AC and allowed to balance.
Still showing 457.25V max charge with 0.013V variance on original BMS.

*Edit*max voltage was out by a volt...damn clumsy thumbs

 

[Gomev]

Am I the only one that does not count how many times I have charged the car ?

I never counted how many times I filled my ICE car up, and have never considered doing it now with an EV.

 

[macd2401]

Am I the only one that does not count how many times I have charged the car ?

I never counted how many times I filled my ICE car up, and have never considered doing it now with an EV.

I use an app called Fuelio, and have for years now. Not just for fuel costs, but for pretty much everything car cost related. Its handy if you're a stats geek One click gets you most of the relevant data.

 

[JodyS21]

Am I the only one that does not count how many times I have charged the car ?

I never counted how many times I filled my ICE car up, and have never considered doing it now with an EV.

I tend to have a standard weekly charge pattern so can make a reasonable guess, I presume most folks home charger apps keep a log of it too.

 

[Lovemyev]

I tend to have a standard weekly charge pattern so can make a reasonable guess, I presume most folks home charger apps keep a log of it too.

I have a dumb Rolec unit, it is not capable of counting the charge cycles.
Maybe that is why it is called a “Dumb” charger .
It has had problems even carrying out that simple function some times .

 

[Kithmo]

Checked mine today.
SOH 100%
2734 miles
14 months old
Don't know how many charges as I don't count them, but they have all been on 7kW exept one Rapid last year for a boost from 50% to 85%, less than 20 minutes IIRC.
GOM 162 miles fully charged, no HVAC in normal mode.

 

[Dave53]

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I'm going to try to pull together some data regarding battery State Of Health, we now have cars about that have done a reasonable mileage.

These are the bits that I think would be good to know:
SOH %
Mileage done
Car age (since registered)
Rought percentage of DC (Rapid) charges vs AC charges.
How many times do you think you've charged to 100%
GOM shown in Normal(3) after a 100% charge, with both trips, reset (car started without brake pedal pressed/under no load) (this gives a good indication of SOH if you haven't got access to OBD2 data)

Mine, to start things off:
SOH 97.27%
10.5k miles
7 months old
5% Rapid charging (5 Rapids done, about 100 AC charges)
About 84 charges to 100%
GOM 159miles

6k, 10 months old, rapid and 7kw with balancing

 

[dprager]

I had another play around with the OBD scanner this morning & put borders around the ten data windows.

What app are ypu using? Can you provide a link?

 

[chowbenter]

What app are ypu using? Can you provide a link?

I downloaded this one off google play store & paid for the pro version, I think it was around £3-£4! Car Scanner ELM OBD2 - Apps on Google Play

 

[Gomev]

I downloaded this one off google play store & paid for the pro version, I think it was around £3-£4! Car Scanner ELM OBD2 - Apps on Google Play

Same app I use, I paid for the pro update as well, but didn't think it was quite that much.
It's great for creating a customised dashboard. I have one page for using whilst charging with things like SOC, charge speed, voltage, cell values etc. I even have one page that is just SOC, so can leave that on display as I drive if I really want to frighten myself watching it drop.
Only downside is it doesn't give ECU firmware names.

 

[dprager]

I downloaded this one off google play store & paid for the pro version, I think it was around £3-£4! Car Scanner ELM OBD2 - Apps on Google Play

Thanx, i'll give it a try

 

[dprager]

I downloaded this one off google play store & paid for the pro version, I think it was around £3-£4! Car Scanner ELM OBD2 - Apps on Google Play

Just downloaded and tested it. The soh of my battery is still at 100%, soc at 86%, 19000km on the odometer. Should i fully charge to let the car calculate the soh?

 

[JodyS21]

Just downloaded and tested it. The soh of my battery is still at 100%, soc at 86%, 19000km on the odometer. Should i fully charge to let the car calculate the soh?

If you’ve recently fully charged & balanced then the SOH should be right, it doesn’t hurt to take all of the figures after a full charge/balance though to be certain.

 

[Gomev]

Just downloaded and tested it. The soh of my battery is still at 100%, soc at 86%, 19000km on the odometer. Should i fully charge to let the car calculate the soh?

Don't forget that 100% SOC displayed in car is 92.3% (ish) in the app.

 

[dprager]

Don't forget that 100% SOC displayed in car is 92.3% (ish) in the app.

Thanx, good to know. Just anaother question. Should the soh be different in cold temp vs hot temp weather? And at what temp should i measure it?

 

[JodyS21]

Thanx, good to know. Just anaother question. Should the soh be different in cold temp vs hot temp weather? And at what temp should i measure it?

SOH should not be affected by the temperature

 

[dprager]

SOH should not be affected by the temperature

Ok, then the are my readings.

 

[rbpasapera]

New readings:
SOH 98.3%
14k km
1 year of ownership
40 AC charges and 18 DC charges (approx.)
GOM 259 km
SOC BMS 93-ish % and 450-ish volts, car fully charged and balanced

 

[miko]

This morning I checked my SOH, it is disapointing
17.500 km
1 year old car
SOH 96,52%
Just to remaind I post my SOH 2 months ago and it was 99,56% and it have 14.600km. Since then it was mostlly fast charging but tis is crazy, even if I fast charge it isnt more than 1C off the battery. I found spec that says charge discharge 1C at 3500 cycles it should have more than 80% capacity remaining. Are those batterys that are in our cars so bad or Iam not realistic and it should be souch. On my previous ev cars I dint have possibillity to check this.
How is this SOH on other cars??

 

[Coulomb]

How is this SOH on other cars??

On other cars, they don't peg the SOH at 100% for most of the first year. Think of it as starting at 103%, but reported as 100% for all that time, now it's down to 96.52%. It's not like it's suddenly started degrading. The first year of degradation is the worst.

Our batteries are made by CATL. I saw a video recently by Sandy Munroe, and he said that the smartest battery people on the planet are at CATL. One of them pronounced it "cat-ell".

So don't panic just yet.