Probably won’t get an MG4 again

[securespark]

I agree with Kithmo. We have had a few similar situations.

I think it's caused because the car is close and thinks you are in danger of a collision.

But it's getting easier to recognise it happening and hoof the electron pedal.

 

[Everest]

I think it's caused because the car is close and thinks you are in danger of a collision.

But it's getting easier to recognise it happening and hoof the electron pedal.

But surely, if "hoofing the electron pedal" is the workaround then clearly you're nowhere close enough to the point of being in "danger of a collision" Hence the software is mis-identifying the situation.

 

[securespark]

Isn't there similar advice in the MG handbook?

 

[securespark]

I think there's a margin of error?

I mean maybe what humans think is OK close, MG think is too close?

 

[Martinonline]

@MelanieMoxon, can you please remind us what sensitivity setting you have for FCA? My Trophy was set on Medium for the first 2 years but after it's second service and SC077 I can keep it on High without no noticeable triggering where before it would beep and show an alert on the driver's screen.

 

[pjmmk]

I have mine set to the lowest sensitivity and it still occasionally brings up panicky messages and beeps even when there's clearly no danger. It doesn't seem to understand the concept of a vehicle in front moving away to the side. It assumes they're still in front of you.

 

[salty]

I always think. With these so called "safety" sensors, there's so many variables, to them working perfectly. I mean does the weather effect them? Hot, Cold, Rain? If they are covered in Shite, would that effect them? And no doubt other things. Manufacturer's are forced to fit them. So not actually there fault, as such. BUT obviously some do it better than others. It seems, MG are not one of the better ones.

 

[Everest]

I always think. With these so called "safety" sensors, there's so many variables, to them working perfectly. I mean does the weather effect them? Hot, Cold, Rain? If they are covered in Shite, would that effect them?

heaven help us when they trial self-driving cars!

 

[salty]

heaven help us when they trial self-driving cars!

Absolutely agree. There's obviously a lot more variables, to that not working, perfectly. I honestly can't see them perfecting that, for a long, long time.

 

[MelanieMoxon]

@MelanieMoxon, can you please remind us what sensitivity setting you have for FCA? My Trophy was set on Medium for the first 2 years but after it's second service and SC077 I can keep it on High without no noticeable triggering where before it would beep and show an alert on the driver's screen.

I have no idea if I am honest, I'll let you know tomorrow when I drive it next. I have turned most of them down in the past but there have been that many glitches over the years i wouldn't be surprised if it had re-set its self.

As others have said, regardless of sensitivity I shouldn't have to reprogram 20+ years of driving (outside of the differences between ICE and EV) to accommodate badly designed "safety" systems which I didn't ask for and am forced to have. I'm honestly considering going back to ICE simply because a car built in the late 90's and early 00's has all I need in it.

And as for self driving cars, not on your nelly.

 

[OriginalBigAl]

Humans have been driving cars for what , 120 years ? Many seemed not to have perfected it either !! Present company excepted , of course.

 

[Everest]

Humans have been driving cars for what , 120 years

sometimes it feels like it

 

[Martinonline]

@MelanieMoxon, I totally agree, my 2003 had all the necessary features (including a 6 CD changer).

But, unfortunately, all the modern cars have these 'safety' features which work to a poor to a good degree. If only there were a safety organisation that sought to ensure a car's automatic systems operated correctly in the real world environment.

 

[pjmmk]

The aim is obviously self driving cars. I suspect the plan is to kill off private ownership of cars, at least for 'normal' people - it'll be short term rental, like taxis. That'll get rid of the need for so many parking spaces for cars that are only used for a few minutes each day. It'll also take away a heck of a lot of freedom that we currently have, which I have to say I think is the main aim.

The transition period, when there are self driving cars and human controlled cars on the road together, is going to be alarmingly dangerous.

 

[salty]

The transition period, when there are self driving cars and human controlled cars on the road together, is going to be alarmingly dangerous.

Pretty sure me and probably a lot of the members on here, won't need to worry about it.

 

[securespark]

Thinking about an MG HS Hybrid. I wonder if the newer cars have their software sorted?

 

[Ian Key]

I've found if you gently brake using the brake pedal instead of using the regen/one pedal braking the emergency stop doesn't kick in when you get close to a parked car or bus etc.

 

[YaR]

The aim is obviously self driving cars. I suspect the plan is to kill off private ownership of cars, at least for 'normal' people - it'll be short term rental, like taxis. That'll get rid of the need for so many parking spaces for cars that are only used for a few minutes each day. It'll also take away a heck of a lot of freedom that we currently have, which I have to say I think is the main aim.

The transition period, when there are self driving cars and human controlled cars on the road together, is going to be alarmingly dangerous.

You'll have a lot more freedom when you're not tied to one vehicle and one manufacturer through a finance agreement...


Not that it's going to happen. We already have car sharing which is short term rental and that's not replaced mass ownership. Even if you ignore that the technology of self driving is a hard problem to solve in any country with pavements, pedestrians and cities that aren't grids there is no economic advantage to manufacturers if every car is self driving. Where is the motivation to buy a new one? If you own a fleet you'll run your cars until they rust so you can extract the maximum profit from them.

 

[nogbad]

Pretty sure me and probably a lot of the members on here, won't need to worry about it.

Put me on that list ;-)

 

[OriginalBigAl]

I've found if you gently brake using the brake pedal instead of using the regen/one pedal braking the emergency stop doesn't kick in when you get close to a parked car or bus etc.

One of the parameters for emergency braking is likely to be that the car does not sense you are in control. The electronics must detect the brake light is active and so disable temporarily AEB as it "thinks" you have it covered. Perhaps there is now a use for that redundant left foot and another new driving technique to be perfected? which over time may become incorporated into the standard driving test for new drivers as clutches and gearboxes are becoming less of a new car feature.