Question for mg4 owners

[TonyWilk]

73% of 61.7kWh usable battery = 45 kWh = 2.978 mpkWh

Even better! Trip out was in the dark, so lights and heater on - not sure how much that'd use in approx. 1hr 20 mins.

 

[TonyWilk]

80/85 will give you poor efficiency. Best with an EV to not go over 65, if you care about efficiency.

(Not everyone does and if charging is cheap at home and range sufficient, happy days, drive as fast as you’d like).

I was, admittedly, playing about a bit - trying to gauge a bit of level road and seeing what difference 60 - 70 - 80 + did to the %power. IF I had pushed it to 95, officer, I'm sure the %power would have been in the 40-odd% range - really gobbling it up

 

[4ND]

Agreed, but auto hold is even easier and very quickly you forget that you have a hand brake (car automatically applies it when in Park).

I get that it may be inconsiderate but I expect many people just don’t think about it.

Ideally there’d be different levels of brightness in brake lights for sharp, moderate and stationary braking.

Yeah, I don't really find it inconsiderate, it don't really irritate me when people are burning their brake lights, I just see it as 'yet another' 'effort' thing which makes me think what else do they do when driving, mechanically. As in if simply taking a foot off the brake and appling a hand brake is an 'effort' task, man lol I mean, the amount of people I know who went to autos as manuals are apparently 'hard work'. That's not just stop/start traffic, but in general. I'm like what exactly is 'hard' about changing gears. What it basically means is that they can't be bothered and laziness. Granted some might prefer an auto box per say, but if it;s just because manuals are apparently 'hard work', then it's generally because they find the 'effort' too much.

 

[memo]

Yeah, I don't really find it inconsiderate, it don't really irritate me when people are burning their brake lights, I just see it as 'yet another' 'effort' thing which makes me think what else do they do when driving, mechanically. As in if simply taking a foot off the brake and appling a hand brake is an 'effort' task, man lol I mean, the amount of people I know who went to autos as manuals are apparently 'hard work'. That's not just stop/start traffic, but in general. I'm like what exactly is 'hard' about changing gears. What it basically means is that they can't be bothered and laziness. Granted some might prefer an auto box per say, but if it;s just because manuals are apparently 'hard work', then it's generally because they find the 'effort' too much.

As somebody who most of my life drove manual boxes and would say naw! "I hate an auto" after driving one for I think 20 miles (an old ford estate if I remeber correctly).

But , maybe because I've got older, since I've had my Ssanyong 4x4 auto for the last 14 years and 264,000 klm (164042 miles) I just wouldn't go back. Call me Lazy

 

[tsedge]

Yeah, I don't really find it inconsiderate, it don't really irritate me when people are burning their brake lights, I just see it as 'yet another' 'effort' thing which makes me think what else do they do when driving, mechanically. As in if simply taking a foot off the brake and appling a hand brake is an 'effort' task, man lol I mean, the amount of people I know who went to autos as manuals are apparently 'hard work'. That's not just stop/start traffic, but in general. I'm like what exactly is 'hard' about changing gears. What it basically means is that they can't be bothered and laziness. Granted some might prefer an auto box per say, but if it;s just because manuals are apparently 'hard work', then it's generally because they find the 'effort' too much.

I suppose people have different things they want from driving, Some enjoy the experience and want it to be as raw and involving as possible, others don’t and want everything done for them.

I am somewhere in the middle. I dislike automation generally but I do like not having to constantly raise and lower the clutch in traffic and I do use cruise control to maintain a constant speed.

 

[MuzGB1970]

Thanks for these 'mpg' or miles per kwh values. So on a standard 34p tariff (forgetting about using silly 70p per kwh on some publics), at 3.6miles you're paying 34p/3.6 = 9.4p per mile.
Doing my usual funnies and asking a Yaris 1.5 hybrid owner in a Tesco car park at 9:10am (!!) to 'show me your mpg', his display had, off the top of my head: 66,69,80 and 65 (I'm sure!). Taking it as 66mpg and at £1.66 per litre petrol cost, that works out at 11.4p per mile. Not that bad, all in all.

I came to an MG4 from an Ioniq hybrid, I'd get about 65mpg in the summer but that fell to 55mpg in the winter, that's about 13.7p/mile. My MG4 is a company car and I charge at work, our tariff is pretty good (£0.2667/kWh) as I signed contracts before things got too high, so it costs about 7.2p/mile at an economy of 3.7miles/kWh.

 

[Macadoodle]

True. What i do there though is something I got on some advanced driving youtube channel. Rather than just indicate on auto pilot, I 'read the roundabout' and ask do i need to indicate? Meaning, I'm looking around and seeing if there are other's waiting to pull out, or pedestrians etc, so of course I indicate. If it seems that an indication would be seen by no one, then I don't. The theory is that you are assessing the situation and making a judgement based on what's occurring, rather than zombie-like hitting the indicator stalk (or not) oblivious to surroundings.

Yep, read the road is the best advice I ever got. Indicate when it's going to be of use to others, be extra vigilant approaching busy junctions, schools etc, don't tailgate and leave yourself plenty of room for the unexpected.
So much aggression and selfish driving these days though, I just don't understand why it has to be this way ?

 

[Ian Key]

True. What i do there though is something I got on some advanced driving youtube channel. Rather than just indicate on auto pilot, I 'read the roundabout' and ask do i need to indicate? Meaning, I'm looking around and seeing if there are other's waiting to pull out, or pedestrians etc, so of course I indicate. If it seems that an indication would be seen by no one, then I don't. The theory is that you are assessing the situation and making a judgement based on what's occurring, rather than zombie-like hitting the indicator stalk (or not) oblivious to surroundings.

I agree and I took my IAM test many years ago and that was what we were taught but interestingly enough for my PCV license it was the opposite. Because it was a large vehicle with potential blind spots we were told to always indicate.

 

[Deleted member 9692]

I agree and I took my IAM test many years ago and that was what we were taught but interestingly enough for my PCV license it was the opposite. Because it was a large vehicle with potential blind spots we were told to always indicate.

And straddle the lanes if you need more room. Amazing how many car drivers get p’d off with that and have no concept of the room you need.

 

[NickHeynes]

I suppose people have different things they want from driving, Some enjoy the experience and want it to be as raw and involving as possible, others don’t and want everything done for them.

I am somewhere in the middle. I dislike automation generally but I do like not having to constantly raise and lower the clutch in traffic and I do use cruise control to maintain a constant speed.

I think I'm with you .
My daily commute was killing my left knee so switched to and ICE auto and now the 4 and not looked back.
The problem with automation as far as i see it is that it's always reactive.However great and quick to respond it is It can never predict what another driver might be just about to do whereas we can see the guy in front is thinking of pulling out changing lane ,cutting in etc.

 

[Ian Key]

I think I'm with you .
My daily commute was killing my left knee so switched to and ICE auto and now the 4 and not looked back.
The problem with automation as far as i see it is that it's always reactive.However great and quick to respond it is It can never predict what another driver might be just about to do whereas we can see the guy in front is thinking of pulling out changing lane ,cutting in etc.

You can't beat experience and I think that only come with having to predict what the other vehicles are doing and being ready to second guess their actions. Automation takes that learning curve away from you and then it's the systems fault not yours and as you weren't paying as much attention you don't learn to read the traffic

 

[4ND]

You can't beat experience and I think that only come with having to predict what the other vehicles are doing and being ready to second guess their actions. Automation takes that learning curve away from you and then it's the systems fault not yours and as you weren't paying as much attention you don't learn to read the traffic

Agreed.
The MX5 is a lesson in itself on thinking one step ahead, given it's size. Edging over a bit in the road when you pass junctions perpendicular to you and cars are there ready to pull out. By nature I don't tailgate, but you'd have a death wish if you did it in an MX-5 and you'd be lost behind an SUV and someone could pull out when the SUV has passed, thinking nothing's behind. Basically, when another car is visible and going to be doing a manoeuvrer which will encroach on 'your bit' of road, you just got to think more.

 

[tsedge]

Agreed.
The MX5 is a lesson in itself on thinking one step ahead, given it's size. Edging over a bit in the road when you pass junctions perpendicular to you and cars are there ready to pull out. By nature I don't tailgate, but you'd have a death wish if you did it in an MX-5 and you'd be lost behind an SUV and someone could pull out when the SUV has passed, thinking nothing's behind. Basically, when another car is visible and going to be doing a manoeuvrer which will encroach on 'your bit' of road, you just got to think more.

A friend once told me that his advanced driving instructor was in favour of a large sharp metal spike in the middle of the steering wheel. He claimed that would promote much safer driving.

 

[NickHeynes]

Agreed.
The MX5 is a lesson in itself on thinking one step ahead, given it's size. Edging over a bit in the road when you pass junctions perpendicular to you and cars are there ready to pull out. By nature I don't tailgate, but you'd have a death wish if you did it in an MX-5 and you'd be lost behind an SUV and someone could pull out when the SUV has passed, thinking nothing's behind. Basically, when another car is visible and going to be doing a manoeuvrer which will encroach on 'your bit' of road, you just got to think more.

ooh MX5 lovely I sold scores of those when I worked for Mazda

 

[Alb]

As the subject of this thread is now a distant memory I think I'll close this down.
Feel free to continue the discussion in a new thread appropriately raised