Things not to like on the MGS6

[SlowKitty]

Hi all. I am from Singapore and I am looking to get a MGS6.

I like to know from existing owners whether there are any aspects of the S6 that is quite unlikeable? In Singapore cars cost a lot of money so I'm doing research on this.

I am aware that this is an enthusiasts forum but I'm hoping for anything negative about the car ... sort of stuff that only real owners and not youtube reviewers show?

Thank you all!

 

[salty]

To the forum.

 

[MG Clive]

I am aware that this is an enthusiasts forum but I'm hoping for anything negative about the car ... sort of stuff that only real owners and not youtube reviewers show?

Welcome to MGEVs @SlowKitty, don't worry mate, we're more than happy to share our negative experiences as well as the good ones.

 

[salty]

Welcome to MGEVs @SlowKitty, don't worry mate, we're more than happy to share our negative experiences as well as the good ones.

Some of us, more than others.

 

[Giller]

Hi all. I am from Singapore and I am looking to get a MGS6.

I like to know from existing owners whether there are any aspects of the S6 that is quite unlikeable? In Singapore cars cost a lot of money so I'm doing research on this.

I am aware that this is an enthusiasts forum but I'm hoping for anything negative about the car ... sort of stuff that only real owners and not youtube reviewers show?

Thank you all!

Had ours for 2 weeks, it’s the Trophy long range single motor, really pleased with it so far, only negative would be the stereo system is lacking in bass, wouldn’t make me regret my decision to purchase though, the rest of the package is very impressive.

 

[PeterHR2]

My only real gripe so far about the MGS6, which I've had for a week now (and done about 450 miles), is that the reversing light has all the illuminating power of a recently extinguished candle. It's fine in reasonably well-lit surroundings, when you might not really need it; but at night, in rural parts, when ambient light is akin to being down an unlit coal mine, it is useless. Reversing at night on a single-track road about 100 metres to a passing spot is 'hairy'. But to be fair, this was the case with the MG5 I had, and I think a few more MG (and maybe non-MG) models too. The rear fog lights, being red, add just a smidgen more visibility when reversing. So I'm hoping the reversing bulb is upgradeable at some point, though the user manual gives me reason to believe it might not be:

Bulb Replacement
Bulb Specification
The light sources of this model are all LED lamps, which cannot be replaced individually. If the light source is damaged, please contact an MG Authorised Repairer.

And being rural there is a fair chance that the reversing camera will also be regularly caked in mud. It really could have done with a washer jet to keep it clean. Again, this is an issue not limited to the MGS6 (or even MG).

I've (so far) not much to really gripe about. The handling and ride are superb.

 

[SlowKitty]

Thank u all for the warm welcome. Let me make all of u feel better instantly.

In Singapore, the car population is controlled by a Certificate of Entitlement. So, anyone who seeks to buy a car has to pay for one, and it is around 62,000 pounds for one as of now. So the price of a MGS6 is around 109k pounds. Yes, you read right.

https://mg.com.sg/Upload/Pricelist/1/pdf/Cat%20A.pdf

Hence I really like to know the options out there. I quite like the MGS6, but I wonder if it is tall enough, as I come from a Subaru Forester.

Cheers to all.

 

[MG Clive]

In Singapore, the car population is controlled by a Certificate of Entitlement. So, anyone who seeks to buy a car has to pay for one, and it is around 62,000 pounds for one as of now. So the price of a MGS6 is around 109k pounds. Yes, you read right.

Wow, that's a shocker @SlowKitty, driving in Singapore must be a real luxury.

 

[Giller]

I did not expect that. As has been said it would seem to us in the UK, Singapore driving is expensive and understandably you want to make the right decision.

Had a quick look at the specs quoted for Singapore, seems you get a reduced power level compared to what we have here, is that correct?

 

[PeterHR2]

Just ...wow! I'd just not consider buying a car at those prices. And the COE has to be renewed!

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A Certificate of Entitlement (COE) is a mandatory document in Singapore that grants the right to own and use a vehicle for 10 years. Implemented to manage traffic congestion, it is part of the Vehicle Quota System (VQS), with limited, bimonthly bidding. After 10 years, owners must deregister their vehicle or renew the COE by paying a Prevailing Quota Premium (PQP).
Key Aspects of the COE System:

• Validity: Each COE is valid for 10 years.
• Renewal: At the end of 10 years, it can be renewed for 5 or 10 years by paying the PQP, which is the 3-month moving average of COE prices.
• Categories:
  • Cat A: Cars up to 1,600cc & 97kW.
  • Cat B: Cars above 1,600cc or 97kW.
  • Cat C: Goods vehicles and buses.
  • Cat D: Motorcycles.
  • Cat E: Open (all vehicles except motorcycles).
  • Bidding: Exercises are held twice monthly (usually 1st and 3rd Monday) via ATMs or Internet banking.
  • Costs: High demand has driven premiums, frequently exceeding $90,000–$100,000+ SGD, often making the COE more expensive than the vehicle itself.

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[MG Clive]

Just ...wow! I'd just not consider buying a car at those prices. And the COE has to be renewed!

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That's obviously the idea, I guess.

 

[PeterHR2]

Hence I really like to know the options out there. I quite like the MGS6, but I wonder if it is tall enough, as I come from a Subaru Forester.

Cheers to all.

Well the MGS6 has 20-in wheels, and the Subaru (UK spec anyway) can be an inch or two less. So the MG will be higher to sill height. But the Subaru is taller, so guess more headroom in its cabin. But I'm over 6ft (>1.8m) and there's ample headroom in the MGS6 for me front and back. Think there's more legroom in the MGS6 in the back cf. the Subaru. I'd imagine given the propensity for more sunshine in Singapore cf. the UK that if you went for the MGS6 with the panoramic roof that you'd have the internal shade closed more often than open.

 

[SlowKitty]

Keep the feedback coming, thank you.

With the COE system, we do not really own cars, but bought the right to have the car for 10 years. Singapore is an expensive place.

 

[Giller]

Keep the feedback coming, thank you.

With the COE system, we do not really own cars, but bought the right to have the car for 10 years. Singapore is an expensive place.

So the 10 year free serving now make sense.

Out of interest is there a used car market over there?

 

[SlowKitty]

So the 10 year free serving now make sense.

Out of interest is there a used car market over there?

Yes, there is. You can check out the prices at https://www.sgcarmart.com/used-cars

So in Singapore we have an artificial concept of a car's depreciation. Assuming acquisition cost is X, and end of 10-yr is Y, then the annual depreciation is (X-Y)/10. The depreciation curve is steeper in the first 3 years if sold, generally lowest at the tail end.

Anyway I am a creature of habit and had held on to my previous cars for 10 years, so the MG if I get it is likely to be so.

Another thing is that based on km per litre, EV charging generally cost 1/3 to 1/2 of petrol cost. That is a big reason for me. RON95 in SG is about 1.73 pounds per lire. Charging is about 40p per KWh.

On the MGS6, I see that it has a NMC batt (as opposed to the LFP) and should not be usually charged to 100%; is that an issue for the owners here?

 

[Giller]

For everyday use I’ve no issue with 80% charge routine, tends to last us 3 to 4 days, only go to 100% when I know we are doing a long trip.

 

[PeterHR2]

On the MGS6, I see that it has a NMC batt (as opposed to the LFP) and should not be usually charged to 100%; is that an issue for the owners here?

For everyday use I’ve no issue with 80% charge routine, tends to last us 3 to 4 days, only go to 100% when I know we are doing a long trip.

I'd add the following to the reply from @Giller.

Though keeping charge state between 20% and 80% for the NMC battery is probably the best daily practice, charging to 90% for daily use really shouldn't cause an issue. Even 100% is 'safe' if you are using it immediately. But keeping an NMC battery near/at capacity for extended periods, especially in hot climes (like Singapore! Or a few weeks of the last couple of summers in the UK!!), is likely to accelerate battery degradation.

Charging to 80% in the UK currently (temps about 6–9°C) gives me a range of somewhere between 180 and 190 miles (around 290–310 km), and so a max real world range of ~240 miles (385 km) at 100% charge. Living rural, I regularly do between 140 and 200 miles (225–320 km) per week: a minimum daily round trip to the nearest bus stop for the college drop off/pick up eats up around 120 miles (190 km) per week (closely equivalent to the length of Singapore's main island's coastline I see). Generally, I'm finding a couple of overnight top-ups on the granny charger are all that is required for me to keep it in the 20–80% range. Just as well, as Herefordshire is not blessed with fast chargers (let alone rapid ones).

 

[Giller]

We get 212 miles from an 80% charge currently, however we have a home charge point rather than having to us the granny so very seldom need to charge away from home, would the higher charging levels from a dedicated home charge point make a difference? Wouldn't have thought so but the stupidest question is the one you never ask as my dear old granny used to say.

 

[PeterHR2]

We get 212 miles from an 80% charge currently, however we have a home charge point rather than having to us the granny so very seldom need to charge away from home, would the higher charging levels from a dedicated home charge point make a difference? Wouldn't have thought so but the stupidest question is the one you never ask as my dear old granny used to say.

Might be down to time of day/night being charged. Those were daytime temperatures I quoted I realised afterwards, and I charged it overnight. Night-time was a bit cooler. And I live 700 ft asl, so you can knock another degree or so off. Perhaps nearer 3–4°C when charged, and not using battery heater. Might make the ~20 miles difference in range.

 

[Giller]

That would make sense, I never use pre-heating on the battery, no need to with home charging at the night rate, even in the summers we have solar panels we can use those to charge at a lower KWh using the surplus which works well, they were installed last May and charging the car and running the house cost £7.46 a month.