Very blue thing has arrived...

[nicholas]

My MG4 has arrived, picked up on Friday and driven a grand total of 67 miles so far, I bloody love it!
It really is a giant leap forward in driving, havn,t charged it yet, It came with a granny charger but I seem to need a lead of my own for un tethered chargers, are there any tips for which one? lots of ads for leads but dont know which to go for...
Will post pics of the car soon, very impressed with the whole ev lifestyle so far..
Happy Easter all.
Nick

 

[IanMK]

I went for this one for my blue Trophy:
Amazon product ASIN B0B41RRQBNIncidentally, the car advised it was charging at 1.6kW. The granny charger is supposed to be 3kW (as apparently confirmed by my smart meter)

 

[siteguru]

If you have a Trophy or SE LR, and it has pins in the L2 and L3 slots in the charge port, then go for a 3-phase 32A cable. That way you'll be able to use 3-phase 11kW or 22kW AC charge points when out and about (achieving nearly 10kW charge rate), whilst also still being able to use 7kW single phase charge points (at home or out and about).

 

[KH11]

Whilst I haven’t even ordered a mg4 yet I have gone for a 3phase 22kw one which I understand will charge 7kw anyway as well as the 22kw ones whereas the 7kw one is the maximum that will take.

If I am wrong I am sure someone else will correct me.

. I went for that one to widen the scope of charging stations that I could use it on. A lot of stations that charge above that round where I live tend to be tethered.

 

[IanMK]

The vast majority of untethered on-street and car-park chargers seem to be single phase. Since AC charging is restricted to 11kW by the car, I took the view that the inconvenience of a heavier and thicker cable wasn't worthwhile for me. On the few occasions that I am likely to want a quick charge, I'll be on the way somewhere and will want a rapid charger that will have a tethered cable.

 

[AdyC]

Hope you enjoy the car as much as i am mine . When i see the blue MG4 it always reminds me of the invacar from the 70s . Colour that is.

 

[Jomarkh]

Whilst I haven’t even ordered a mg4 yet I have gone for a 3phase 22kw one which I understand will charge 7kw anyway as well as the 22kw ones whereas the 7kw one is the maximum that will take.

If I am wrong I am sure someone else will correct me.
View attachment 16824. I went for that one to widen the scope of charging stations that I could use it on. A lot of stations that charge above that round where I live tend to be tethered.

Just make sure you order an MG4 with 3 phsae charging ie with the L2 and L3 pins populated.

 

[KH11]

I was looking at ordering the MG4 Trophy which I understood would work on the rapid charging network above 22 kw which if I am correct in my understanding is a 3 phase system.

I am currently pricing up for home chargers that also integrate with Solar Panels. Which it is looking like it will be a Zappi.

 

[Ayoull]

I went for this one for my blue Trophy:
Amazon product ASIN B0B41RRQBNIncidentally, the car advised it was charging at 1.6kW. The granny charger is supposed to be 3kW (as apparently confirmed by my smart meter)

MG Granny is 10A rated.

10*230 = 2300w

 

[siteguru]

MG Granny is 10A rated.

10*230 = 2300w

And you wouldn't (indeed you can't - legally) use anything higher from a domestic 3-pin socket.

 

[evcog]

I went for this lead
Amazon product ASIN B09NKZ4MTW
Working well so far.

 

[IanMK]

And you wouldn't (indeed you can't - legally) use anything higher from a domestic 3-pin socket.

3kW heater allowed

 

[inshreds]

I wasn't even aware that a charging cable was not supplied. So a 3 phase one for the 64KW models will have to be on order.

 

[KH11]

When I was in the showroom the other day talking to the salesman. He said that they only come with the Granny Charger cable now and he was honest enough to say they do sell the type 2 to type 2 charger cables but you would be able to get them cheaper elsewhere. Which is what I have done in readiness for ordering a car.

 

[inshreds]

When I was in the showroom the other day talking to the salesman. He said that they only come with the Granny Charger cable now and he was honest enough to say they do sell the type 2 to type 2 charger cables but you would be able to get them cheaper elsewhere. Which is what I have done in readiness for ordering a car.

After seeing them in the showroom with the type 2 cable in the boot, alongside the test car we pretty much naievely assumed that it came as standard......

So fitting a reverse wireless camera, buying a 3 phase lead, installing LED bulbs to the interior lights, upgrading the speakers, fitting a rear passenger light, extra boot light and 3D printing trays/supports...enough to keep me project busy.

 

[siteguru]

3kW heater allowed

Yes (as that's 13A at 230V), but 13A is not usually a charge setting for "granny" charge points - the next step up is 16A, which would be inadvisable from a domestic 3-pin socket. In fact, even a 3kW heater is inadvisable from a domestic 3-pin socket - at least for a sustained period.

 

[Ayoull]

Yes (as that's 13A at 230V), but 13A is not usually a charge setting for "granny" charge points - the next step up is 16A, which would be inadvisable from a domestic 3-pin socket. In fact, even a 3kW heater is inadvisable from a domestic 3-pin socket - at least for a sustained period.

It's a cyclic load (the heater) so wouldn't cause too many issues, we use the same determination on the DNO network for what's is classed as DASH (direct air surface heating) (also called radiant / convection heaters) we only take half the load into account for a heater as it spends over 60% of its time off.

 

[siteguru]

Good point ... but that wouldn't apply to an EV charge point as that would be a nominally constant load rather than cyclic.

 

[Deleted member 10041]

I was looking at ordering the MG4 Trophy which I understood would work on the rapid charging network above 22 kw which if I am correct in my understanding is a 3 phase system.

I am currently pricing up for home chargers that also integrate with Solar Panels. Which it is looking like it will be a Zappi.

The trophy will charge at up to 11kw AC and 135kw DC )rapid charging)

 

[Ayoull]

Good point ... but that wouldn't apply to an EV charge point as that would be a nominally constant load rather than cyclic.

No an EV is constant so that's why limited to 10A on a granny.

And why we have to apply a different diversity level to properties with 32A EV chargers