What's your fuel economy

PAULinTHAILAND

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Here in Thailand car heating is not required and can run the car in EV mode with the aircon on, but still get about 70km in EV mode

Yesterday was at my local shopping center. There was no parking in the shade available. So when we were nearly finished shopping, switched on the aircon in the car from the app to pre chill the car :)

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The quoted 32 miles EV range is pretty accurate.

I did a 100 miles round trip on the motorway and in hybrid mode, both ICE and electric motors work in tandem. Even doing 60-70mph on the motorway, occasionally the car will switch to full EV.

On a different trip to the next town 12 miles away on full EV mode. Country lanes and 30 mph town driving. Fully charged and after 12 miles, electric range left indicated 21 miles. The consumption was 32.8kWh/100km (1.89 miles/kWh).
 

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Wish we got the app over here, god knows why we don't apparently the hardware isn't even fitted.
 

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The quoted 32 miles EV range is pretty accurate.

I did a 100 miles round trip on the motorway and in hybrid mode, both ICE and electric motors work in tandem. Even doing 60-70mph on the motorway, occasionally the car will switch to full EV.

On a different trip to the next town 12 miles away on full EV mode. Country lanes and 30 mph town driving. Fully charged and after 12 miles, electric range left indicated 21 miles. The consumption was 32.8kWh/100km (1.89 miles/kWh).
Hi Sky I don't think my car in hybrid at 60-70 mph has ever changed over to ev mode , I didn't think it worked that way , but I'm no expert I will have to see next time I'm doing that speed.
Just a minor thing , you are doing yourself out of how many miles per kwh you are doing. On your display ( like mine ) it shows 32.8 kWh/100 miles ( not per 100km) , so that equates to 3.04 miles / kWh.
So in theory if we have 13kWh of battery for use , 13 x 3 = 39 miles range. So that's the range you could obtain driving as you did.
Mine only ever shows 32 miles , but recently I did 36 miles before the ICE kicked in , and that was driving mostly on fast roads
 

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Jem

Your are right, it is per 100 miles rather than km. Mine also only shows at 32 miles when fully charged. I had the car diagram on the display and whilst doing motorway speed I did notice it switched to only running on battery a couple of times. It didn’t last very long though before the engine started again. I have to say whilst in auto/hybrid mode out of the 100 motorway miles it only used a handful of EV miles.
 

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I decided to do my maths, even though I still haven't need to put any fuel in the car yet :ROFLMAO:

I have averaged 165MPG on petrol and 26.5kwh/mile

But ofcourse these are both used together, so I worked out the cost per mile.

On Petrol is 3.56p/mile and Electric 4.77p/mile (Yes I know I'm paying too much for electric but that's another story for another day)

I reckon this gives me a combined cost of 8.33p/mile. Which if you work out as miles per gallon based on current petrol price, is 70.5MPG

I reckon that's slightly better that the 30MPG I get in the Discovery :)

From memory the Leaf gets 3.7mile/kwh, which using the same math works out at about 120mpg equivalent.
 

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That probably amounts to the same thing, I have about 6miles of single carriageway, before I hit dual carriageway where, on a longer journey I tend to stick in EV on the single, then switch to hybrid, on the dual, and back into the ev, leaving dual. Interestingly you could also have got another 10miles or so on EV with a full charge, which would have improved your figures further.

When I'm going to my parents, who also have an EV charging point, I leave it EV all the way, do the last 2 miles on petrol, and charge up at theirs, and do the same on my return :) I usually stay for more than 3/4 hrs so works quite well, even if I have to boot their car off their charger 🤣

:ROFLMAO:

Hopefully, I can think the same one day.
Yes and me lol
 

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I disagree, even with a flat battery, you get regen braking, and a boost from the motor. In stop start traffic my battery stays low once I've drained it, but over longer runs I tend to build a little charge which I can then use in EV Mode, reducing my petrol usage by a couple of miles.

All this after 3 days of usage 😁

Didn't really get chance to charge at my parents today. So did the round trip 64miles approx), on one charge. Drove there on EV as usual doing the last couple of miles on petrol, but obviously then on my way back it was nearly entirely petrol. However after 25 miles, I had regained 11% of charge, and went back into EV mode, should have done it sooner got home with 4% left :cool:

Another interesting thing, in Hybrid, with 0% battery, I stopped at the chippie on the way to my parents. Missus was in the car, so left it "On" but in park, with the AC running. The petrol engine stayed running while I picked up tea, however as soon as I put it into park, it cut the engine and drove off through the village on electric, ofcourse as soon as I got over 26mph coming out the village it started the engine again.
 

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Didn't really get chance to charge at my parents today. So did the round trip 64miles approx), on one charge. Drove there on EV as usual doing the last couple of miles on petrol, but obviously then on my way back it was nearly entirely petrol. However after 25 miles, I had regained 11% of charge, and went back into EV mode, should have done it sooner got home with 4% left :cool:

Another interesting thing, in Hybrid, with 0% battery, I stopped at the chippie on the way to my parents. Missus was in the car, so left it "On" but in park, with the AC running. The petrol engine stayed running while I picked up tea, however as soon as I put it into park, it cut the engine and drove off through the village on electric, ofcourse as soon as I got over 26mph coming out the village it started the engine again.
wow 11 miles after 25 miles driving seems high( or is that just me?? as I only saw a few miles driving 80 odd miles back from wales) , unless you did a lot of regen braking.
I assume your management mode in AUTO ( not medium or high)
 

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Yes left it in the default auto mode. Mostly dual carriageway A road 60-70, virtually never touch brakes, ease off and regen whenever possible but 11% not 11miles 😉
 

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We all have different ways of working out the economy of our cars.
I decided to look at it from the cost of both petrol and electricity ( as its also a fuel ) for the phev against just petrol for my KIA.
In the end we both came to the same conclusion its cheaper to run the phev than an ICE :) .
I know going forward I will probably loose interest in all these figures (lol) but as its a new toy its nice to see how much I am saving. :) , and we have a great looking and great car to drive.
I had Outlander for 11 months and I kept EV eyes on usage month after month.
We have had the Leaf for 3 years, I know it costs £40 on an average.

My usage is 600 miles a month - with HS I have EV button but it will force me to use petrol at some point (Outlander did 15l every 3 months). Charging is mostly Go Faster.
350 miles, it’s is showing 70+ mpg and 15 kWh / 100m but I know is closer to 3.5-4 m/kWh
 
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