Which EV, new or used, would you change your MG for?

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[Archev]

I liked the MG ZS ev until the 5 estate was announced. Loved the five for approximately three years / 32000 miles.
We had two Berlingo semi automatic diesels after a diabolically bad Mercedes (for 8 days). The Berlingos were absolutely superb so I got round to hankering after another as soon as I heard there were ev versions available.
It is so much easier to get in and out of. I’ve now driven it serenely for over 6000 miles and really like it. It’s the standard shorter model with five separate seats. The rears and the passenger seat all fold pretty flat into the floor to leave a large van that’ll take 8’-0” timber etc easily. It’ll carry two washing machines no problem, and, most importantly, I can stretch out on my folding bed platform for a comfortable sleep. The platform folds up fully into the “boot” at the rear leaving all five seats available.
It has five doors. The rear tailgate is very big. When opened up it provides protection from rain or snow when loading or unloading (or making a cuppa on the induction hob- not supplied )
It’s giving me 3.7 miles per kWh and a wee bit over 200 miles pretty consistently the way I’m driving it (eco and excellent regen 3 ) and usually about 50 / 55 mph.
I fitted a spare wheel and cradle last week for a bit of peace of mind beyond the usual goo and a pack of stringy thingys because of the questionable roads I’m liable to drive.
The boot is pretty vast. My folded bed platform is configured to be easily removable and when in place still leaves loads of luggage space.
If parked in a tight car park etc the sliding rear side doors are a boon. The vast tailgate needs a fairly big area to open if there’s a wall or other vehicle parked behind you. That’s when the separately opening rear window is very handy for loading bags etc in.
I’m still investigating how to fit a frunk. There’s acres of space for one.
I see there’s tow bars available for about £130 or so and installation of them is pretty straightforward. That includes the socket and wiring but I’m sure a relay would need to be added. The car has the eco and standard settings and also a third, power setting which they recommend using for towing or when fully loaded.
It’s no sports car obviously but doesn’t hang about if you’re in a hurry , handling isn’t tooo bad.
So, in short, I’m very happy with it.

 

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[Archev]

I liked the MG ZS ev until the 5 estate was announced. Loved the five for approximately three years / 32000 miles.
We had two Berlingo semi automatic diesels after a diabolically bad Mercedes (for 8 days). The Berlingos were absolutely superb so I got round to hankering after another as soon as I heard there were ev versions available.
It is so much easier to get in and out of. I’ve now driven it serenely for over 6000 miles and really like it. It’s the standard shorter model with five separate seats. The rears and the passenger seat all fold pretty flat into the floor to leave a large van that’ll take 8’-0” timber etc easily. It’ll carry two washing machines no problem, and, most importantly, I can stretch out on my folding bed platform for a comfortable sleep. The platform folds up fully into the “boot” at the rear leaving all five seats available.
It has five doors. The rear tailgate is very big. When opened up it provides protection from rain or snow when loading or unloading (or making a cuppa on the induction hob- not supplied )
It’s giving me 3.7 miles per kWh and a wee bit over 200 miles pretty consistently the way I’m driving it (eco and excellent regen 3 ) and usually about 50 / 55 mph.
I fitted a spare wheel and cradle last week for a bit of peace of mind beyond the usual goo and a pack of stringy thingys because of the questionable roads I’m liable to drive.
The boot is pretty vast. My folded bed platform is configured to be easily removable and when in place still leaves loads of luggage space.
If parked in a tight car park etc the sliding rear side doors are a boon. The vast tailgate needs a fairly big area to open if there’s a wall or other vehicle parked behind you. That’s when the separately opening rear window is very handy for loading bags etc in.
I’m still investigating how to fit a frunk. There’s acres of space for one.
I see there’s tow bars available for about £130 or so and installation of them is pretty straightforward. That includes the socket and wiring but I’m sure a relay would need to be added. The car has the eco and standard settings and also a third, power setting which they recommend using for towing or when fully loaded.
It’s no sports car obviously but doesn’t hang about if you’re in a hurry , handling isn’t tooo bad.
So, in short, I’m very happy with it.

Just out of Tesco’s and needed that opening rear window

 

[Bam Bam]

Would your alternative be the Peugeot rifter @Archev ?

 

[Archev]

Would your alternative be the Peugeot rifter @Archev ?

Aye I got wind of one of them too

 

[Everest]

Don't forget VW too

And Ford with their MEBs.

Interestingly, I just looked at some pics of the so-called Capri. I though I'd read once, last year, that Ford were going to use the battery and drivetrain from VW, but looking at the interior pics it's a VW... It's a VW Capri The screen looks the same, the 'gearlever' the same, the windows switches identical, even the light switches.

 

[Gadget Geek]

Interestingly, I just looked at some pics of the so-called Capri. I though I'd read once, last year, that Ford were going to use the battery and drivetrain from VW, but looking at the interior pics it's a VW... It's a VW Capri The screen looks the same, the 'gearlever' the same, the windows switches identical, even the light switches.

Ah, but the badge is different.

 

[Archev]

Ah, but the badge is different.

And Delboy hasn’t got one “ lovely jubblev”

 

[Caramaddy]

Toyota do a Proace Verso now. 200 mile range.

 

[securespark]

But they're all the same car, aren't they?

Berlingo, Rifter and Proace Verso?

Don't know if they all offer the same body shell and battery options, though...

 

[Archev]

But they're all the same car, aren't they?

Berlingo, Rifter and Proace Verso?

Don't know if they all offer the same body shell and battery options, though...

I’m pretty sure the body shell and battery/ motor etc etc are the same. The differences are confined to trim and paint colours and the like.
When looking for my last diesel semi automatic, the Citroen/ Peugeot garage in Glasgow had a GT trim Peugeot Rifter and I was very keen. It was just the seats and bits and pieces that differed.

I ultimately went for the Citroen version and “ticked all the boxes” to end up with a beautifully trimmed car with the glass roof etc etc. it made a very nice van to travel round in and work from. I ended up getting it for slightly less than the Peugeot was going to be.
I had each of my two diesel Berlingos for three years or thereabouts and think I put around 60000 or so miles on each from memory. I can’t remember either giving me any problems and both gave around 60mpg if left in automatic and dropped a few mpg when trying to be smart and use the flappy paddle selectors behind the steering wheel - an exercise I gave up very soon to allow the cars to get on brilliantly with the job.
There’s also the Vauxhall Combo, Toyota and Fiat versions but I think it’s mostly badge engineering differences.

 

[Archev]

I’m pretty sure the body shell and battery/ motor etc etc are the same. The differences are confined to trim and paint colours and the like.
When looking for my last diesel semi automatic, the Citroen/ Peugeot garage in Glasgow had a GT trim Peugeot Rifter and I was very keen. It was just the seats and bits and pieces that differed.

I ultimately went for the Citroen version and “ticked all the boxes” to end up with a beautifully trimmed car with the glass roof etc etc. it made a very nice van to travel round in and work from. I ended up getting it for slightly less than the Peugeot was going to be.
I had each of my two diesel Berlingos for three years or thereabouts and think I put around 60000 or so miles on each from memory. I can’t remember either giving me any problems and both gave around 60mpg if left in automatic and dropped a few mpg when trying to be smart and use the flappy paddle selectors behind the steering wheel - an exercise I gave up very soon to allow the cars to get on brilliantly with the job.
There’s also the Vauxhall Combo, Toyota and Fiat versions but I think it’s mostly badge engineering differences.

I guess it’s down to your own historical beliefs and stories with vehicles - if you were a Vauxhall or Peugeot type in a previous life
What really drew me to Citroen was them giving me a brand new car to use for a week putting about 500 miles on it whilst falling in love with it. It was around the time of the disastrous episode with the potentially lethal Mercedes crap so Citroen just treated us properly at the right time. Their reward was to sell us three diesels (wife got a perfect C3)
and now I’ve bought the electric version.

 

[5teep]

But they're all the same car, aren't they?

Berlingo, Rifter and Proace Verso?

Don't know if they all offer the same body shell and battery options, though...

Yes, all Stelantis. Toyota has been using rebadged Peugeot vehicles for some years now.

 

[Archev]

Yes, all Stelantis. Toyota has been using rebadged Peugeot vehicles for some years now.

Not sure when the Berlingo van first appeared but there has been an awful lot of versions and absolutely loads of them still going strong. Very early on the French brought out the ones with seats and windows. They’ve upgraded and modernised continuously.

 

[Caramaddy]

My experience of a diesel Renault Kangoo was disappointing. Our MG5 is the first non-Japanese derived vehicle we have bought and it has blown me away to be honest. If I get the time I will post a SHORT one year experience review!

 

[Bam Bam]

Interestingly, I just looked at some pics of the so-called Capri. I though I'd read once, last year, that Ford were going to use the battery and drivetrain from VW, but looking at the interior pics it's a VW... It's a VW Capri The screen looks the same, the 'gearlever' the same, the windows switches identical, even the light switches.

VW and Ford are working together on vans these days as well, though it might be the other way around (Transporter is a rebadged transit).

I remember watching a review of either the cars or the vans and they claimed the other company had their own bit of the factory to make sure the vehicles met their standards.