Did you buy your EV to Save The Planet?

[Ian Key]

Going back to the title of this thread. How many people buy an EV to save the planet then go on holiday in a plane?

 

[decrep]

Going back to the title of this thread. How many people buy an EV to save the planet then go on holiday in a plane?

Yep, easy to do, must admit I feel a bit guilty about our overseas trip, but that's no reason not to buy an EV.

It does sound a bit hypocritical, but it's an apple and orange thing, buying an EV, (if you can afford it, is no hardship, but missing out on a bucket list holiday is something else.

You do what you can.
And as already said, if you think you can save the planet, you have serious mental problems. Maybe make it a little less unpleasant for coming generations, is all you can hope for.

 

[johnb80]

To be honest saving the planet wasnt the primary reason. I bought EV(s) because I like the way they drive, the convenience of recharging at home and the very cheap running costs. I was spoiled 10 years ago when working in USA I was given a Tesla Model X as my company car, I had to do regular trips from New York to Pittsburgh and within 5 miles I knew I wouldn't be driving ICE much longer. When I returned home I sold my 4.4 TDV8 Range Rover and bought a BMW i3, opposite ends of the green scale. I feared I would miss the Range Rover but within a couple of days I knew I would never go back to ICE. That is still my stance today, I still have the i3, we bought an MG5 Trophy in 2023 and already planning its replacement next year.

 

[T1 Terry]

Yep, easy to do, must admit I feel a bit guilty about our overseas trip, but that's no reason not to buy an EV.

It does sound a bit hypocritical, but it's an apple and orange thing, buying an EV, (if you can afford it, is no hardship, but missing out on a bucket list holiday is something else.

You do what you can.
And as already said, if you think you can save the planet, you have serious mental problems. Maybe make it a little less unpleasant for coming generations, is all you can hope for.

We change the thinking, one household at a time, about the best we can do really.
Fortunately, I don't have flying to another part of the world on my bucket list, seeing as much of Australia in the time I have left is my driving ambition (no pun intended there)

T1 Terry

 

[Gadget Geek]

Going back to the title of this thread. How many people buy an EV to save the planet then go on holiday in a plane?

You could always use Eurostar and have an adventure driving through Europe and beyond.

 

[PeterHR2]

Going back to the title of this thread. How many people buy an EV to save the planet then go on holiday in a plane?

The last time I flew was in September 2002 (to the USA, for a train ride from Chicago to Denver).

Flying is now relatively greener, though there is more of it! And it will get greener. But whether green enough is currently debatable. I'm not in favour of stopping people flying. Give everyone an annual carbon credit I say, and then they can use it or sell it as they see fit.

 

[Bam Bam]

You could always use Eurostar and have an adventure driving through Europe and beyond.

I think Sleeper trains are the answer.

Go to sleep on one side of the continent and wake up on the other. Went from Brussels to Wien that way.

The bottlenecks are:
1. There aren't enough of the trains as they are quite specialist carriages.
2. Often track work is done overnight so they can't secure the routes, or can't secure them until relatively late, which isn't great for planning a trip in advance.

 

[MG Clive]

Going back to the title of this thread. How many people buy an EV to save the planet then go on holiday in a plane?

I do my bit with the car, it's up to the airline to something with the plane.

 

[Rolfe]

Do what you can, I say. But frankly, even if you told me that EVs were killing the planet and everyone should go back to petrol for the sake of the environment, you'd have to prise my MG4 out of my cold dead hands.

 

[OriginalBigAl]

Do what you can, I say. But frankly, even if you told me that EVs were killing the planet and everyone should go back to petrol for the sake of the environment, you'd have to prise my MG4 out of my cold dead hands.

Well that might scupper someone's plans for an inheritance gift.

 

[Bam Bam]

Well that might scupper someone's plans for an inheritance gift.

New MG burial scheme?

Put a brick on the accelerator to get the car driving down a slipway with the deceased strapped in.

Problem is what if the previous person's MG4 is down there in the way?

 

[Ian Key]

New MG burial scheme?

Put a brick on the accelerator to get the car driving down a slipway with the deceased strapped in.

Problem is what if the previous person's MG4 is down there in the way?

No need. According to the anti-ev idiots we'll all be cremated in our cars when we least expect it.

 

[Jamesrr]

Going back to the title of this thread. How many people buy an EV to save the planet then go on holiday in a plane?

Not us. I do think getting an EV is a good thing for the planet and I'm very happy we've replaced both our ICE VWs with MG4s.

However, living in Australia it's very impractical to not fly to get to Europe for a holiday. You really need to take the plane.

That being said, once we get there, we take trains everywhere we're staying.

Spending hours in airports is not our idea of fun. Far nicer getting the fast trains around. So much more relaxing.

 

[T1 Terry]

Maybe they'll get this ammonia to hydrogen conversion down to a light and small package that they can feed it into the jet engines and just produce water as steam that will improve the thrust. The fuel tanks can be replaced with light weight graphene reinforced polycarbonate that doubles as the wing outer skin and the baffles in the tank double as the wing structure ribs.
That way, they can both offset the weight difference between aviation kero and ammonia while increasing the tank capacity ..... eliminate the fire risk and just worry about the ammonia killing who ever in the case of a spill or crash .... the ammonia is an energy carries and the remains after the hydrogen is again extracted, is nitrogen, the most abundant gas in our air and great for putting out fires and as a plant growth stimulant .... https://www.csiro.au/en/research/environmental-impacts/fuels/hydrogen/ammonia-and-reaching-net-zero

The down side, it does have a short life cycle in the atmosphere, but unfortunately it converts to N2O (nitrous oxide) which is 275 times worse than CO2 as a greenhouse gas ....

T1 Terry

 

[Archev]

Maybe they'll get this ammonia to hydrogen conversion down to a light and small package that they can feed it into the jet engines and just produce water as steam that will improve the thrust. The fuel tanks can be replaced with light weight graphene reinforced polycarbonate that doubles as the wing outer skin and the baffles in the tank double as the wing structure ribs.
That way, they can both offset the weight difference between aviation kero and ammonia while increasing the tank capacity ..... eliminate the fire risk and just worry about the ammonia killing who ever in the case of a spill or crash .... the ammonia is an energy carries and the remains after the hydrogen is again extracted, is nitrogen, the most abundant gas in our air and great for putting out fires and as a plant growth stimulant .... The role of ammonia in reaching net zero

The down side, it does have a short life cycle in the atmosphere, but unfortunately it converts to N2O (nitrous oxide) which is 275 times worse than CO2 as a greenhouse gas ....

T1 Terry

Come and have a wee lie down now - we’ll take you out for a walk later. These hallucinations aren’t good for you

 

[OriginalBigAl]

No need. According to the anti-ev idiots we'll all be cremated in our cars when we least expect it.

Only if we are on the way to Valhalla,......... whilst stuck in a traffic jam on the M55.

 

[Archev]

Only if we are on the way to Valhalla,......... whilst stuck in a traffic jam on the M55.

Your satnav’s goosed mate - that’s the M9

 

[OriginalBigAl]

Kettle calling pan ? would that be M9 ( Messier 9 ) near to the centre of the Milky Way ? Like to see the Waze route to that one. Plot a course Jordi " Make it so ".

 

[T1 Terry]

Come and have a wee lie down now - we’ll take you out for a walk later. These hallucinations aren’t good for you

Cut to the bone I tell ya ... Why was it ok for you to post when you were off your trolley, but I can't come up with a brilliant idea to save the world .... or at least, the airline industry .......

T1 Terry

 

[T1 Terry]

Kettle calling pan ? would that be M9 ( Messier 9 ) near to the centre of the Milky Way ? Like to see the Waze route to that one. Plot a course Jordi " Make it so ".

Can I get a link to the code for programming that into Google Maps, gotta be better than Karen sending up off in the wrong direction

T1 Terry