Do I need a 3 phase cable?

[boogiewoogie]

I have a MG4 2023 standard range. My charging cable is working intermittently so I need to buy a new one, but don't know if I need a normal one or 3 phase? There is a cost difference. Is the 3 phase better?

 

[johnb80]

I have a MG4 2023 standard range. My charging cable is working intermittently so I need to buy a new one, but don't know if I need a normal one or 3 phase? There is a cost difference. Is the 3 phase better?

I believe the MG4 is single phase only so no advantage having a 3 phase cable. Can you not have your existing cable repaired?

 

[webhiker]

The question is if your charge pod at home is 1 or 3 phased.

I believe the MG4 is single phase only so no advantage having a 3 phase cable. Can you not have your existing cable repaired?

That is incorrect. It may differ by market.
Mine in DK is 3 phased

 

[Martinonline]

In the UK the MG4 SE is single phase. It is unusual for UK homes to have a 3-phase supply.

 

[johnb80]

The question is if your charge pod at home is 1 or 3 phased.

Not really, the question is if the MG4 has a 1 or 3 phase charger which, it does not. I have a 3 phase lead for my i3 even though i only have single phase at home. Some places I visit however DO have 3 phase charging.

[ Edit moderator: "2 or 3 phase charger" → "1 or 3 phase charger" ]

That is incorrect. It may differ by market.
Mine in DK is 3 phased

 

[boogiewoogie]

I believe the MG4 is single phase only so no advantage having a 3 phase cable. Can you not have your existing cable repaired?

Not sure I where I can get it repaired. This site says the MG4 is 3 phase MG 4 Charging Cables. Cable bag & Free Shipping. and the car manual doesn't say if it's 1 or 3 phase. Do you know if theres a way to know for definite?

 

[johnb80]

Not sure I where I can get it repaired. This site says the MG4 is 3 phase MG 4 Charging Cables. Cable bag & Free Shipping. and the car manual doesn't say if it's 1 or 3 phase. Do you know if theres a way to know for definite?

It is single phase in the uk.

Often, the bottom two pins (L2 & L3) are missing completely on cars with single phase only, this however isnt guranteed.

 

[boogiewoogie]

Not really, the question is if the MG4 has a 2 or 3 phase charger which, it does not. I have a 3 phase lead for my i3 even though i only have single phase at home. Some places I visit however DO have 3 phase charging.


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Interesting, I must have confussed mine with the LR version.

Will check the vehicle socket too

 

[Kithmo]

Didn't early MG4s have 11kW charging ?

 

[Martinonline]

The first version of the Trophy has 3-phase charging capability with the appropriate cable but this capability was removed in the second version (with rear wiper).

 

[Kithmo]

The first version of the Trophy has 3-phase charging capability with the appropriate cable but this capability was removed in the second version (with rear wiper).

That's what I thought I'd read somewhere. ?

 

[Martinonline]

There is a thread - 'Trophy still supports 3 phase AC charging' - and it discusses the abilities of the various MG4 Types to handle 3 phase. On page 2, #34, Mar 19 2023, @siteguru posts a picture of a charging port without pins 2 and 3. The thread covers the belief that the UK Market was only destined to have single phase but some LR cars were delivered with the EU 3 phase spec.

 

[Rolfe]

The SR has never supported 3 phase charging in any of its incarnations, so basically, save your money.

 

[PeteC]

Didn't early MG4s have 11kW charging ?

Yes, my 2022 Trophy has 11kW charging.

 

[tsedge]

Mine has 11kW, I bought a 3 phase cable, used it once in 16 months and then was only a 7kW charger. Basically it was a waste of money.

 

[OriginalBigAl]

The SR has never supported 3 phase charging in any of its incarnations, so basically, save your money.

You missed off"" UK version" before SR .

 

[Rolfe]

Yes, I wondered about that, because I wasn't sure if it was right across the range or not. But the OP is in England.

 

[PeteC]

Mine has 11kW, I bought a 3 phase cable, used it once in 16 months and then was only a 7kW charger. Basically it was a waste of money.

I use mine quite a lot when I'm in Scotland. There are a good number of 22kW chargers where I stay. I don't consider mine a waste of money as I have to use public chargers when I'm there. I don't think I've ever used it when I'm at home in England as I charge at home.

 

[Steve Kaye]

I have a MG4 2023 standard range. My charging cable is working intermittently so I need to buy a new one, but don't know if I need a normal one or 3 phase? There is a cost difference. Is the 3 phase better?

My understanding is that your electricity supply needs to be 3 phase, if it doesnt a three phase cable wont work anyway

 

[johnb80]

My understanding is that your electricity supply needs to be 3 phase, if it doesnt a three phase cable wont work anyway

The three phase cable will work but only single phase (7 kW).