Equalisation charge - NMC battery

[decrep]

"As the vehicle is charging, it will show blue lights around the charging area, green when it is fully charged. When all of the lights have gone off, this confirms the battery equalisation has taken place"

Wrong.

As the vehicle is charging, it will display blue lights when preparing to charge and green lights around the charging points when charging. The charging port lights power off when charging is complete.

Best you correct your MG contact point.

Seems like this was just an individuals take on it and not an "official" response, to be taken with a pinch of salt.

 

[Joningy]

"As the vehicle is charging, it will show blue lights around the charging area, green when it is fully charged. When all of the lights have gone off, this confirms the battery equalisation has taken place"

Wrong.

As the vehicle is charging, it will display blue lights when preparing to charge and green lights around the charging points when charging. The charging port lights power off when charging is complete.

Best you correct your MG contact point.

Seems like this was just an individuals take on it and not an "official" response, to be taken with a pinch of salt.

I think poor ole @Tuareg may converting Chinese into Greek and getting his things in a twist, calm down chum, we are all trying to help, if you need to reply, be civil or helpful.

 

[decrep]

I think poor ole @Tuareg may converting Chinese into Greek and getting his things in a twist, calm down chum, we are all trying to help, if you need to reply, be civil or helpful.

That's OK Chum, what he says agrees 100% with what I see on my car.

Don't tell me that different models do different things with the lights, as well as charging.

BTW I'm perfectly calm, just stating what seems perfectly obvious from what I observe.

However at my age you start to have self doubts, so I just plugged the car in. Here's the sequence I observed.
Open charge door, light blue lights on, a few seconds later lights go out, plug car in, dark blue lights on, turn on charger, after a few relay clicks lights turn green, number of lights on indicating state of charge.
So this does agree with Tuareg, I humbly suggest, you go to your car and post here the exact sequence you get. Then we can all wonder at the mean tricks MG are playing on us.

When real life doesn't agree with what is stated, I feel it's permissible to doubt all the words in that statement.

 

[Tuareg]

I think poor ole @Tuareg may converting Chinese into Greek and getting his things in a twist, calm down chum, we are all trying to help, if you need to reply, be civil or helpful.

Not 'converting' anything, just pointing out some very basic errors which some will then use and blame MG for some sort of bugs where in fact it's the usual user errors and then we have pages of nonsense to clog up the forum as has happened umpteen times before. Discrediting someone who pointed out a clear, basic error is very disrespectful and unhelpful. You need to go take some chill pills.

 

[Data]

Ok so I'm back. This seems a requirement to remind everyone that MG customer support here in the UK has told me exactly the same thing (as I have previously mentioned in more than one thread) as told to Joningy. That is with the exception of the blue & green lights, which if you think for a moment about it, is pretty much irrelevant as the car just does it's own thing & clearly is just an oversight by the MG person replying. Making an error concerning the lights does not invalidate the information.

In addition to what Joningy & myself have been instructed to do regarding how to do a proper equalisation, my dealer has also confirmed this whole process telling me exactly the same information as MG customer support. And to remind folks, it's the only way to do a proper equalisation & retain maximum battery health.

What do people want, blood?? Everyone is free to do as Jon & me have done. None of this is secret information. As Joningy says...we're just trying to help. But we are often met with what seems like a wall of scepticism & sometimes from some individuals, even hostility. Skepticism GOOD, Sillyness NOT GOOD.

Having said all this most of the conversations with folks on here in this thread have been extremely enjoyable & informative. Doesn't actually matter what your view point is, just base it on common sense & the evidence which is actually everywhere.
Thanks everyone.

 

[Joningy]

That's OK Chum, what he says agrees 100% with what I see on my car.

Don't tell me that different models do different things with the lights, as well as charging.

BTW I'm perfectly calm, just stating what seems perfectly obvious from what I observe.

However at my age you start to have self doubts, so I just plugged the car in. Here's the sequence I observed.
Open charge door, light blue lights on, a few seconds later lights go out, plug car in, dark blue lights on, turn on charger, after a few relay clicks lights turn green, number of lights on indicating state of charge.
So this does agree with Tuareg, I humbly suggest, you go to your car and post here the exact sequence you get. Then we can all wonder at the mean tricks MG are playing on us.

When real life doesn't agree with what is stated, I feel it's permissible to doubt all the words in that statement.

I don't disagree with you @decrep. I know the light sequence is incorrect in the MG reply, but that is word for word as it was written. it's the manner in which the odd person tries to dominate a conversation, your reply was perfectly polite, I'm happy to talk to polite people.
BTW, I'm also creeping on too at 77, but don't need take rudeness or bullshit.
This forum is for helping each other, not to be rude to others, that may not have been his intention, but how I perceived it.
Somebody else summed it up that it was probably a personal opinion, and likely he mixed up the colour sequence.

 

[Joningy]

Ok so I'm back. This seems a requirement to remind everyone that MG customer support here in the UK has told me exactly the same thing (as I have previously mentioned in more than one thread) as told to Joningy. That is with the exception of the blue & green lights, which if you think for a moment about it, is pretty much irrelevant as the car just does it's own thing & clearly is just an oversight by the MG person replying. Making an error concerning the lights does not invalidate the information.

In addition to what Joningy & myself have been instructed to do regarding how to do a proper equalisation, my dealer has also confirmed this whole process telling me exactly the same information as MG customer support. And to remind folks, it's the only way to do a proper equalisation & retain maximum battery health.

What do people want, blood?? Everyone is free to do as Jon & me have done. None of this is secret information. As Joningy says...we're just trying to help. But we are often met with what seems like a wall of scepticism & sometimes from some individuals, even hostility. Skepticism GOOD, Sillyness NOT GOOD.

Having said all this most of the conversations with folks on here in this thread have been extremely enjoyable & informative. Doesn't actually matter what your view point is, just base it on common sense & the evidence which is actually everywhere.
Thanks everyone.

At least someone sees it similar to me and many people too I'd guess .
Overall I think MG is a great budget car, I like the brand name from old,.
New MG now make very good cars and their reliability is getting much better, my MG4 never missed a beat in nearly 2 years. I'm hoping my new MGS5 will be similar.
But perhaps at a higher level their customer service could be improved a bit, but let's try to be fair, they are obviously putting in huge efforts to make cars, I can forgive them for not being PERFIK with their instructions at times.
In my mind we've sorted out the basics, ie charge to 100% once a month, but I'm not keen on taking SOC down so low as 10% or even 20% to achieve what everyone in this part of the forum is here seeking information about.

 

[siteguru]

The bottom line (if you have an NMC battery pack) ...

• Balancing at any SoC is better than not balancing at all
• Balancing at 100% is better still
• Try to do a <10% to 100% calibration charge then final balance at least every 6 months (to recalibrate the BMS).

4 pages of thread condensed.

 

[Joningy]

The bottom line (if you have an NMC battery pack) ...

• Balancing at any SoC is better than not balancing at all
• Balancing at 100% is better still
• Try to do a <10% to 100% calibration charge then final balance at least every 6 months (to recalibrate the BMS).

4 pages of thread condensed.

Thanks @siteguru I think that now should give NMC battery owner's a technical goal.
But must the charge be done in one hit? or is it possible over 2 separate charges (I suspect not) using Octopus 11.30pm to 5.30am 7p/kWh tariff?
My Ohme Home Pro, won't reach the target in one go (never seen it above 6kW charge rate) so assuming it charges @6 kW, which of course it won't, especially towards the end of the charge, I don't expect it to be anything like full charge in 6 hours.
It's very easy to change the charge window to 100% and small additional cost even if using a monthly or bi-monthly full charge.