I hate my MG4!

[securespark]

Wow.

 

[Tuareg]

This was news 3 years ago.

 

[LenEV2016]

OK, maybe so, but his Audi wasn't!

I never said it was

 

[securespark]

This was news 3 years ago.

I've only seen it just now.

 

[NikLiverpool]

I had to laugh at the ramp excuse. The lowest capacity commercial garage ramp you can buy lifts 3 tons. Even if it's old, they've been 3 tons for decades, most are 4 or more. I'm pretty sure there are no EV cars that weigh in excess of 3 tons!!

This is what he was told
You have to laugh; they really didn't care and were using any excuse they could think off to fob him away. It was a 2 year lease; he drove the car in total about a year...
Would you guess what he is driving now and he is totally happy with?
An MG4

 

[Tuareg]

I've only seen it just now.

I'm referring to sodium ion batteries. There's also graphene ion battery tech that's been under development for the last 3 years.

 

[strife finch]

@CharlieT

I could have written this list myself. Glad I’m not the only one. I wanted rid of it after the first couple of weeks because of this list.. But I have come to tolerate it.

Out of interest, which issues did the software update fix for you?

Mines in for service in a couple of months and will push for a software update. I’m an early 23 plate on R30

 

[T1 Terry]

I'm referring to sodium ion batteries. There's also graphene ion battery tech that's been under development for the last 3 years.

Sort of like solid state batteries, all talk, no results that have made it to market , CATL has released their second generation hard carbon cell, passed all the tests and are actually being mass produced for the next generation EV .... this could be the point where ICE propulsion loses the battle .... all their scare mongering gets squashed in one hit .... the petroleum industry may never recover from this hit .....

T1 Terry

 

[siteguru]

Carbon? That's coal innit? So it burns easily!

 

[OriginalBigAl]

Carbon? That's coal innit? So it burns easily!

Balls........ black gold ..... Buckminsterfullerene that is, Jed .

 

[DYWLC]

I have it on the furthest setting but it still gets closer than I would like.

I'm very much into smooth driving - start slowing a long time before the lights etc.

Apparently that is how limo drivers drive.

I have mine on the furthest setting too which is what the closest should be I think. I have a ford transit with the same setting system of bars between the vehicle in front and myself.
The ford system shows four bard at the furthest detting and it's a very comfortable distance between me and the vehicle in front. I am an IAM advanced driver and I know which oif the two vehicles I have is the best cruise control.

 

[Tuareg]

Sort of like solid state batteries, all talk, no results that have made it to market , CATL has released their second generation hard carbon cell, passed all the tests and are actually being mass produced for the next generation EV .... this could be the point where ICE propulsion loses the battle .... all their scare mongering gets squashed in one hit .... the petroleum industry may never recover from this hit .....

T1 Terry

I love China:

Sodium-ion (Na-ion) batteries are
currently in a stage of rapid industrialization, poised to become a cost-effective alternative to lithium-ion batteries, particularly for stationary energy storage and affordable electric vehicles. While still in the early phases of commercialization with most production in pilot plants, major manufacturers are announcing significant capacity expansion plans. However, scaling up production faces challenges including demand uncertainty, funding, and production scalability. China currently leads the market in this field.

Current status and key developments

• Pilot and small-scale production: Most Na-ion production is currently in pilot plants, with a few small factories starting up.
• Capacity expansion plans: Many companies have announced large-scale production capacity expansions planned for the coming years, with total announcements well over
  
  
  
  100100
  GWh by 2030.
• Manufacturing transition:The transition to Na-ion batteries does not require entirely new plant technology, as it shares similarities with existing Li-ion production, mainly requiring different starting materials and production parameters.
  • Market leadership: China is leading the development and commercialization of this technology.

 

[T1 Terry]

I love China:

Sodium-ion (Na-ion) batteries are
currently in a stage of rapid industrialization, poised to become a cost-effective alternative to lithium-ion batteries, particularly for stationary energy storage and affordable electric vehicles. While still in the early phases of commercialization with most production in pilot plants, major manufacturers are announcing significant capacity expansion plans. However, scaling up production faces challenges including demand uncertainty, funding, and production scalability. China currently leads the market in this field.

Current status and key developments

• Pilot and small-scale production: Most Na-ion production is currently in pilot plants, with a few small factories starting up.
• Capacity expansion plans: Many companies have announced large-scale production capacity expansions planned for the coming years, with total announcements well over
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  100100
  GWh by 2030.
• Manufacturing transition:The transition to Na-ion batteries does not require entirely new plant technology, as it shares similarities with existing Li-ion production, mainly requiring different starting materials and production parameters.
  • Market leadership: China is leading the development and commercialization of this technology.

That article is rather dated, 6 mths is a long time in EV battery development ...

CATL are already in full production with their 2nd generation Na+ and are building battery pack now for EV that will be released by the end of this yr or early next yr.

Most already know about the new Chinese EV battery mandate regarding no thermal runaway or fire and a few serious stress tests that very few lithium based batteries will pass, 300 back to back fast charge and discharge with no appreciable temperature rise .......
CATL have already passed these new tests, I haven't seen any indication any other battery manufacturer has made it to that stage yet with a mass produced product .......

What is not clear is, will this apply the battery manufactured after 1 July 2026, or vehicles sold after 1 July 2026?

T1 Terry

 

[CharlieT]

Its maybe the wrong vehicle for you ,?!

You're right, it was, because it was utterly awful! However as my later post says, after MG had it back for 3 weeks in which time they fixed the A/C and at long last did a software update, it came back like a different car, and I quite like it now. I've had it since 2023 and it appears some of those earlier cars had real issues, which happily now seem to have been largely put to bed.

 

[CharlieT]

@CharlieT

I could have written this list myself. Glad I’m not the only one. I wanted rid of it after the first couple of weeks because of this list.. But I have come to tolerate it.

Out of interest, which issues did the software update fix for you?

Mines in for service in a couple of months and will push for a software update. I’m an early 23 plate on R30

I’d say most of them seem to have been sorted. The speed limit recognition is still rubbish (but MG aren’t alone on that one), I still don’t use the auto dipping headlights as they like to blind people (but again, this isn’t just an MG issue), there’s nothing I can do about there being no light in the rear passenger area and the seatbelt plugs in the rear are still tricky for my kids to use, but apart from that, the software update (and a new A/C compressor) has fixed them all. I went from R33 to R63 on my Trophy, so I think you’ll find a significant improvement .

How much better it would have been if MG a): released a car that had been tested properly in the first place and b): enabled OTA updates so quite a few of the issues could have been sorted without the need to battle with some woeful dealerships who aren’t in the slightest bit interested in customer care.

 

[JonnyG]

I love China……..

Rather you than me !

 

[Tuareg]

Shock horror, American media slate the Chinese. Yawn. The Americans simply can't compete so they drag out the usual anti-Chinese rubbish because they can't produce most things that people want to buy. My money will always be on China for anything high tech.

 

[MelanieMoxon]

I am reclassifying my car as an a****g junk bucket. The dealer support is pap "sorry we didn't have time to do the software updates you booked the car in for, and at 3 years old and 23,400 miles, the first MOT throws an advisory on worn front suspension bushings...that's just shoddy materials imho.

 

[MelanieMoxon]

Having just phoned the finance company the remaining liability is less than the outstanding payments to the end of the term, so I'm going to run it through winter and start car shopping in Jan/Feb for a replacement. Bit of a sad end but I'm not keeping it any longer than I deem sensible.

 

[LenEV2016]

Having just phoned the finance company the remaining liability is less than the outstanding payments to the end of the term, so I'm going to run it through winter and start car shopping in Jan/Feb for a replacement. Bit of a sad end but I'm not keeping it any longer than I deem sensible.

I take it that is voluntary termination? Not a bad shout getting rid early as it's sounds.like it's going to cost you money as well as being a massive pain in the preverbial.

May as well spend your money on something else