MG5 vs ZS EV

[biffo]

I’m sure we can feature this topic on the 17th Jan.

If there were 10 “things” to base a decision on in the ZS v 5 debate what would they be? I have listed the obvious...your help would be appreciated

1. Price
2. Running costs/Range

Comparing the ZS Facelift with the sparse info on the 2022 MG5 Facelift

• ease of access (particularly for those with mobility issues)
• equipment (MG5 missing blind spot and rear cross traffic detection - and the panoramic roof)
• aesthetics (everyone seems to own an SUV - but estates are cool )

Also,

New details MG Marvel R Electric, renewed MG ZS EV and MG5 Electric

Just two years after the relaunch of the iconic British car brand in mainland Europe, MG enters a new phase with three new models. Read more.

news.mgmotor.eu

"the MG5 Electric will be offered with the MG iSMART connectivity system including the smartphone app as standard. "

"electric motor which produces 115 kW (156 ps) and 260 Nm of torque" as opposed to the "135 kW / 280 Nm electric motor" mentioned in the earlier article.

Initially, the website had listed iSMART Lite - is this still the case?

Interestingly, the manual for current model lists the MG5SR at 260 but MG5LR at 280 Nm - same 115 kW though

 

[biffo]

MG unveils new MG5 Electric: world’s first all-electric station wagon

The new MG5 Electric is the world's first 100% electric station wagon, with more than 400 km range and 1,456 litres maximum trunk volume.

news.mgmotor.eu

Provisional specifications MG5 Electric
(article dated 16-03-2021)
400km(WLTP range)*
578L (trunk volume)
1,456L trunk volume max
135 kW / 280 Nm electric motor*
3.4 sec (0-50 km/h acceleration)*
8.3 sec (0-100 km/h acceleration)*
11 kW AC Charger (3-phase fast charging)
30 min to 80% battery level fast-charging capacity
500 kg towing capacity*
75 kg roof load*
MG Pilot – advanced driver assistance systems (ADAS)
V2L 2,500W power supply for external usage

It’s been mentioned on podcast (for the MG ZS facelift) that the UK will get a single phase 7 kW AC rather than the 11 kW 3-phase - suspect the MG5 will be the same.

 

[biffo]

Stop the wheel spinning many people talk of and eek out more range?

If motor and battery are similar (or the same) then must be gearing change - which might impact the KERS level

 

[AdamMGEV]

Stop the wheel spinning many people talk of and eek out more range?

Put bigger battery, better wheels job done. You don't give people an upgrade and say we solved the wheel spinning and increased the range by just making it slower.

 

[Edoc16]

Ahh the Oxford - wonderful machine- my Dad’s company car was the estate car style. I overcooked it one night and mysteriously it broke a connecting rod on his way to work next day.

A proper con man

 

[biffo]

Put bigger battery, better wheels job done. You don't give people an upgrade and say we solved the wheel spinning and increased the range by just making it slower.

Suspension tuning, bigger wheels, grippier tyres all cost money - might be a market for a Sport model with these features but that has cost implications to add an additional specification to manufacturer and consumer. It could happen if popularity increases through.

Risk is you make something you can’t sell by pricing out with your market sector / demographic.

 

[Webbo]

Back in the 70s, 13" was the norm for most cars, 12" for some smaller cars and the Mini had 10" wheels. 13" tyres were dead cheap.

My Reliant had 10" wheels

 

[neilp7865]

I’m sure we can feature this topic on the 17th Jan.

If there were 10 “things” to base a decision on in the ZS v 5 debate what would they be? I have listed the obvious...your help would be appreciated

1. Price
2. Running costs/Range

Residuals
Boot space
Apps (remote charging, preheating)

 

[smokie]

It's starting to sound like a few here might have bought the wrong car!!

 

[JCFlippen]

I based my decision on:
do I fit in it? 6’2
does the wife like It?
will it fit my needs?
yes to all above.
Do all the extra features mean anything really?
No.

Decision - Bought ZS EV

 

[Archev]

The MG 5 is perfect for my needs. But if I could I would make the following wee alterations :-

1 much simpler vehicle

2 regen increased

3 drum brakes

4 much more rounded shape

5 availability as saloon, estate, van and pickup

6 use of some sustainable materials - eg wood framing

7 central circular info screen on dash

8 much cheaper circular lights

9 proper narrow steel wheels for traction through snow

10 simplify the name and badge by dropping “Garage”

These are my suggested minor changes
Really? Nah I’ll stick with team 5.