This will not help the brand one bit

Enlighten yourself, as anyone spending tens of thousands on a car should.
Surely….surely in this day and age you’re in the minority in only looking at RRP and not researching actual real world deals.
Even for those who are ‘hard of google’ there are companies like carwow will do it for you.
And when I'm buying a car I obviously do the research. But I'm not going to do more than a few quick Googles for the sake of a discussion. As for carwow and the like, for accurate results they demand your personal information.
Surely...  surely you'd already know the information since you're the one stating it.

I've seen multiple posts recently arguing that the 4 is no longer competitively priced. But I haven't seen anything to back that up (aside from Leni16s post - thank you Leni). Useful to know whether there's any substance behind the posts.
 
And when I'm buying a car I obviously do the research. But I'm not going to do more than a few quick Googles for the sake of a discussion. As for carwow and the like, for accurate results they demand your personal information.
Surely...  surely you'd already know the information since you're the one stating it.

I've seen multiple posts recently arguing that the 4 is no longer competitively priced. But I haven't seen anything to back that up (aside from Leni16s post - thank you Leni). Useful to know whether there's any substance behind the posts.
At the end of the day, the only thing that matters are the deals that you have in front of you. Others may say a better deal exists somewhere else but unless you can get the same, it is irrelevant.
 
And when I'm buying a car I obviously do the research. But I'm not going to do more than a few quick Googles for the sake of a discussion. As for carwow and the like, for accurate results they demand your personal information.
Surely...  surely you'd already know the information since you're the one stating it.

I've seen multiple posts recently arguing that the 4 is no longer competitively priced. But I haven't seen anything to back that up (aside from Leni16s post - thank you Leni). Useful to know whether there's any substance behind the posts.

There’s plenty of substance to it, unless you’re suggesting everyone making these claims is doing so baselessly?
I’ve no idea what your bit about carwow wanting your information is all about.
 
I would recommend carwow as a starting point for anyone looking to purchase. You can get lease, pcp and cash quotes. All you need is an email and password to set up an account.
It amazes me how little research some people do before spending what is a considerable amount of money.
Use Autotrader, ring a few dealers, go on comparison sites, look at pcp options etc etc - save some money!
 
I would recommend carwow as a starting point for anyone looking to purchase. You can get lease, pcp and cash quotes. All you need is an email and password to set up an account.
It amazes me how little research some people do before spending what is a considerable amount of money.
Use Autotrader, ring a few dealers, go on comparison sites, look at pcp options etc etc - save some money!

Or get a better car for the same money.
I’m with you though, incredible the lack of effort people make.
Even though the PCP deal on my Born was already very decent and easily acceptable, I still got them down by £18 a month with the old ‘screwed up face and oooh it’s a bit more than my budget’ routine.
 
Same exact figures for a trophy and a V2 born, £4000 deposit, 10000 miles a year, about £20 ish a month difference on PCP. That's before any potential discount on the Born.

I bought outright in cash.

So 29200 for a SE LR was clearly £7k cheaper than an ID3 or Born. and those are BASE MODELS

Not everyone has a PCP.

Much of what was offered for 3k more on the Trophy is froth and software based complications.
 
I bought outright in cash.

So 29200 for a SE LR was clearly £7k cheaper than an ID3 or Born. and those are BASE MODELS

Not everyone has a PCP.

Much of what was offered for 3k more on the Trophy is froth and software based complications.

Yours is a base model too, don’t see your point there.
And, again, you’re only comparing RRP.
I’m not saying you’d have got a born or id3 for £29200, but you’d have taken the gap down from £7k, that’s for sure.
 
I bought outright in cash.

So 29200 for a SE LR was clearly £7k cheaper than an ID3 or Born. and those are BASE MODELS

Not everyone has a PCP.

Much of what was offered for 3k more on the Trophy is froth and software based complications.
But you could have got a Trophy for £794.00 more?

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I bought outright in cash.

So 29200 for a SE LR was clearly £7k cheaper than an ID3 or Born. and those are BASE MODELS

Not everyone has a PCP.

Much of what was offered for 3k more on the Trophy is froth and software based complications.
It's not like for like a basic MGLR is no where even close to comparable to a Born V2 which I was comparing to a trophy
 

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