Content by Everest in December, 2025

Should be quite a few around at that price now - also Cat-S MG4's or a high-mileage VW ID.4's. Re warranty, you'll need to find one that has a full service history with no services missed, either on mileage or within 28 days of due date. Finding one at that price with complete history may be...

Looks good - presumably not an e-motorbike though? As for the consumer unit... Yes, that is a good solution if you have a modern one with individual RCBO's or a dual pole type A RCD. I would not recommend wiring an EV charger downstream of your main RCD, if it is an older Type-AC RCD. The...

Presumably, even without a smart meter, you will have at least quarterly bills from over the last year to work out a reasonable estimate of your consumption and proportion that accordingly to work out whether the increased day rate will be more or less than your £160 charging difference? IME...

or, from another zenforo based forum I'm on...

tends to happen with tyres ;)

(y) please do - with your low usage it sounds do-able.

Agree. For continual use, you should have a BS1363-2 type EV socket installed off a dedicated radial final and then running a maximum of 10A for charging. Even then, there have been issues, especially with poorly connected 13A fuses in the granny chargers plug... e.g. like in this thread...

(y). A few of us have gone down that route... e.g. here https://www.mgevs.com/threads/porsche-mobile-charger-with-mg4.23983/post-405984 and https://www.mgevs.com/threads/uk-domestic-socket-charging.18129/post-405504

Well, it certainly can and it does, for us. All depends on your usage patterns and having enough PV and battery. I'll assume you mean kWh, not kW. If so, then yes, I agree that is looks do-able. I must say 6kWh is a very atypical low consumption and I wasn't factoring that in with earlier...

IMHO that configuration sounds somewhat under-panelled. Understandable if you have limited space for panels though. I suspect that, unless your household loads are very low, there won't be a whole lot spare for EV charging. If you have the space it would be good to increase the number of...

Well, he is from Wales 🤷‍♀️

(y) we do. Has been completely free for 9 months of the year and odd top-ups for the rest of the year. Great. How many panels do you have and what power will your inverters generate? We put our surplus into the EV's in the summer, usually charging at around 16A from solar, sometimes at...

Wow, very early it's another week till carving time ;)

Why on earth did the software engineer put a "Restore Audio Defaults" button within the software version information pane? 🤷‍♀️

There seemed to be something odd about your picture, so I fixed it for you...

It's all down to supply and demand - can't comment for prices in Sweden though, likely to be very different to the UK. Over here we also have sites that will give buy price for used vehicles - like webuyanycar.com, which is good to get a vague idea of value - maybe you have similar sites over...

Should they have even done that though. I thought IM was just another brand under the SAIC group :unsure: Like Lexus vs. Toyota. Or DS vs Citroen?

Which @salty responded with a laugh on the day you posted it... There's a pattern going on here... :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: https://www.mgevs.com/threads/joke-thread.17888/post-412723

Personally I prefer the type 2. There are plenty of type 2 public chargers, but less public 13A sockets and the latter will take a long time to get you going again. Each to their own though - I'm hoping I'll never need to use mine 🤞

https://www.mgevs.com/threads/mg4-trophy-lr-my2022-ac-charging-speed.18229/post-353333

You may not use it, but it is good to have one in case of getting caught short or a DC charging having been vandalised when you've only got 10 miles of range left. Yes - look at its charging socket to see if the L2 and L3 pins are populated.

These XPowers do depreciate quickly 🤣🤣

Tell him that it's Christmas and he'd being a tight 🫏 and that if he wants to sell it he can chuck in the cable that he originally implied it would come with :(

Yes, @salty still has an orange one (y) He's just washed it for you... He'll take £25,000 cash, which includes my commission of 2%. https://www.mgevs.com/threads/anyone-wash-their-car-today.18120/post-412528

I wasn't concerned about 🐙. I was concerned about Rolfe's household contents!

Exactly the issue... which is why I built my own control systems. No way! A commonly used digital DS18B20 temp probe costs less than £5. Someone is taking the Michael there :( But you don't need AI for the above level of control. All of that could be achieved if you have programmable...

:eek: Personally I'd be cautious about putting that info on a public forum... but maybe I'm just paranoid :unsure: (or maybe you're really away in February and will be sat at home with some weapons of mass-destruction for anyone who might be tempted to burgle?)

Oy! Beauty is in the eye of the beholder... and I love my VW ;)

(y) for sure. An ID.3 is a much closer match.

IMHO you need more than an AI layer, it will need hardware comms links too. A hybrid inverter will have its own power meter or CT to control export power, so when it runs on battery it doesn't export. But then you add an EVSE which claims to be solar compatible. It comes with another custom...

(y) but just be aware that the GO tariff is 8.5p/kWh and only 5h per night.

Voluntary Termination

Inevitable losses. Most will be lost in the conversion from AC to DC within the charger. Some will be used to heat the batteries to a suitable temperature during charging. Some will be lost powering the vehicle's electronics. Some, hopefully a smaller amount, will be lost as heat in the...

Why were you following when... a) you have an XPower and b) you put in an extra 8% charge overnight ;)

Hmm... not sure you deserved the "🤓" emoji... I make it 7 candles, 4 illuminated, 3 not. 1100101 = 64+32+4+1

Doesn't sound excessive to me - depends on how much you drive and/or use electricity around the house. Just checked... we're similar to @Tig170 having used 9.8MWh so far... but fortunately we generated 10.5MWh from solar in the year to date :)

Stumbled across this announcement... https://www.cpsc.gov/Recalls/2026/Tesla-Recalls-Powerwall-2-AC-Battery-Power-Systems-Due-to-Fire-and-Burn-Hazards-Risk-of-Serious-Injury-or-Death Seems like over 10,000 Powerwall 2's are being recalled due to fire incidents. I've no idea whether that...

only by PM if you twist my arm 😊

No.. you just need to move with the times. Candles will all be LED based by then, powered by home storage sodium ion batteries which cover the gaps when your home, fridge-sized nuclear generator is not generating. If you want use real fire in your home you will:- a) need to apply in advance...

Ah, but do those sentiments still apply if I used Google translate to help me read it :unsure:🤷‍♀️

How many more kWh's would you need over the 42kWh you can put in over 6h? Presumably you'd only be looking at an extra 20p or so per kWh compared to the IOG rate?

:( https://www.wired.com/story/ford-kills-electric-f-150-lightning-for-hybrid/

(y) I use that. The other disadvantage is that it's only 5 hours (00:30 - 05:30) cheap rate on GO... but we still managed to consume just over 50kWh in 5 hours last night :)

I would be concerned with the security of BT connection without prior paring - is it documented anywhere how the security works for this scenario?

Beats a stable

that and "TADTS" :)

(y) 32A is the limit for single phase AC charging.

BOGOF ?

YW. He would have meant, switch your house to a different phase. The street will usually have supply of 3 phases and it's common to provide one phase to every 3rd house - to even out the load. But if you are unlucky and every 3rd house has an EV charger, by co-incidence, then switching you...

FTFY ;)

Who else remembers... "another WADHAM STRINGER car" stickers from the 70's ? 👵

(y) Ferrari could just be bought by Fiat then... oh wait.... ;)

Handy for going around roundabouts though :)

And isn't the current Polo bigger than a MK I Golf?

Good idea, though I think someone already suggested that in post #7 ;)

Dips at night will be localised effects on the LV cabling. In general, with little PV export and no local EV charging I'm still seeing general grid voltage levels dip early am and 5-7pm; like this... (x-axis time of day, y-axis voltage)

Further thought... do you know what value your voltage dropped to when the Pod-point cut out? If not too low then, in the meantime before either you move house or the DNO resolves the issue, you could try charging at say 24A (approx 5.2kW) , rather than 32A (7kW) - assuming that the Pod-Point...

(y) that is correct... Your DNO is regulated under ESQCR 2002 to maintain that voltage at the point of your supply (i.e. at the DNO cut-out). This will not necessarily be the voltage measured at your pod-point depending on the impedance of the wire from your cut-out to the pod-point. From...

Didn't know @siteguru had a drink problem :(

So increase it to about £25K? Sounds like a big ask... guess if you don't ask you won't get, but I would have thought a petition to just exempt state pension from basic rate tax would be more likely to succeed (or am I missing something about it being double)?

And presumably your MGS5 is even bigger?

LOL... Well, I have driven an Audi Quattro, but not as fast. Indeed 🏆 I did see her, or rather her Audi, briefly on the RAC Rally in Wales back in the 1980's though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mich%C3%A8le_Mouton

Oy! Some of us know how to drive ;)

Is that a piece of Meccano holding the steering wheel in place?

Definitely not OK... it spills when you go round corners ;)

So, it was the Minervois - told you :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

(y) I never liked Volvos either.

(y)... which reminds me of an old joke... I'll post it over here... https://www.mgevs.com/threads/joke-thread.17888/post-416047

Bill Gates reportedly compared the computer industry with the auto industry: “If General Motors had kept up with the technology like the computer industry has, we'd all be driving $25 cars that got 1,000 miles to the gallon.” In response, GM issued a press release: “If General Motors had...

I thought it was going to be the start of a joke I was told many years ago... but that one's too naughty to relay on here :(

Well, I'm not going to encourage you to Google 'stockings' :ROFLMAO:... IMHO hose is more a commonly used in the USA, but Google does say... "hose" is an older or collective term for stockings, tights, and socks, especially in historical contexts or when referring generally to legwear, but it...

I'm guessing that is just an issue if you don't have battery storage and a cloud comes over and panels make less than 1.4kW of power. Otherwise, surely your batteries will just fill in for the clouds and continue to charge the EV?

I might try that, though probably won't say mate! And thinking of you in France, isn't it the Citroen CX that had a strangely warped shape to its rear window?

3 legged bull ?

🥳

What?.. even BMW's :unsure:

👋.. you weren't tempted by a BEV then, MG or other make?

Error line 6 ^^^

What's this rain? 13kWh generated today 😎

(y) - agree. There's no gain in paying for an extra RCBO in this socket if your CU already has an RCD that protects the circuit (RCD type A or B, not type AC). Then just use an EV-compliant BS1363-2 type EV socket.

Hmmm.. damn click-bait. You sure it's twisted and not just an illusion from starting on the Minervois early today? 🍷

If I Remember Correctly ;)

If it's facelift ZS (from 2022 IIRC) then the standard range uses LFP battery chemistry which is good to charge to 100% with no negative longevity concerns.

🤞 4 U

🍒 :unsure:

(y) They ended it so that you won't be fined when you connect a hose to a submersible pump when pumping out your flood water ;)

That's like asking are apples cheaper than sausages! It will depend on how much you need to consume of each type. Which, in turn will come down to consumption of vehicles you are comparing.

Call me a luddite, but surely the problem here is down to those that tie themselves into a vehicle for 2 or 3 years on finance. When I was a lass, we'd buy a car, own it and be free to sell if we didn't like it. If we couldn't afford it, we'd buy a cheaper / older vehicle. 🤷‍♀️ And I still...

Or they could sell it for the value of the platinum and buy something more appropriate 🎮

I thought he'd 'fixed' all the problems by... and... So it must be perfect to drive now 🎉🥳 And re.. LOL... you don't think the finance company paid more than 50% of the sticker price do you? ;)

Was there ever a resolution that fixed this issue permanently in the MG4?

Bit confused here... Louise already said... so presumably she already has a granny charger ? :unsure:

And with EV prices slumping I do wonder how there is any money to be made in repairing these minor write offs.. This 23 plate Cat-S SE, with just 7500 miles on the clock is being advertised for just £8250. Makes me wonder what the repairer picked it up for and how it was worth repairing it...

Still a lot of money for an ID.4 with a folding fan and pair of castanets 🇪🇸

I'm surprised it wasn't a write off.. 6 months of hire car must have cost a fortune to the insurers!

😦 It's only 8th F F S (for festive's sake)

There are not that many domestic households that have a 3 phase supply in the UK and, even if they did, not all MG's support 3 phase charging :(

That could have been 19 post ;)

Maybe not directly though :unsure: enode (3rd party car data aggregator) are claiming beta support for some MG models (see https://developers.enode.com/api/capabilities/vehicle). Not sure whether IOG use enode at all?

Interested in that. Do you mean that the heat pump uses only 40% of the electricity that an resistive immersion heater would use? Also do heat pumps heat to 65-70degreesC which would be needed to heat up a hot water tank to a safe temperature? :unsure:

what are solutions?

It was a joke!

Because it's not that big. The more kWh you have, the higher charge rate is possible. Max charge rate of an LFP cell is a function of both temperature and SOC, typically measured in C (that's charge or current rate, not Coulombs). A typical LFP cell will have a max charge rate like this...

I will correct you... it is not a merely a significant problem.. it is a crucial problem ;)

You can never have enough kWh... just charge up for the full 5h. And more battery means you can carry more over from a sunny day :)

Doh!... that's confusing on a car forum :( But an excuse to post...

I don't even know what @salty's sentence means 🤷‍♀️ Something about a Subaru I guess :unsure:

(y) I agree - being a new purchase it is much better, IMHO, to reject it now than have months of to-ing and fro-ing with attempted repairs, waiting on MG, etc.

how?

Ah - shame it didn't fix the original culprit :(

No, but they don't look very estate-shaped when they pull those covers off :(

I think you have to turn the steering wheel from lock to lock a few times after a power reset to clear the error - or take it for a short drive ? :unsure:

Doing a 10mm spanner Ctlr-Alt-Del procedure would be my first port of call. AKA disconnect 12V battery, wait 5 minutes and reconnect it.

(y) So, guess still no news after another 48h has passed?

Possible, but it's a lot more complex than a spreadsheet... you'd need to factor in gas price (obviously), but also boiler efficiency, losses in the pipes from boiler to hot water tank - which can be substantial (but less substantial if the boiler is heating the house at the same time as the...

I hate noise at night too. Washing machine and dishwasher are a definite no-no. Fortunately we have solar and batteries, so everything is either free or powered by our EV charging tariff in the depths of winter.

Bother these 'seasonal avatars'. You've all changed and I don't recognise anyone anymore :( That's you @salty, @LenEV2016 and @T1 Terry being the worst offenders. @Rolfe is not so bad as I can still make out the fur and whiskers under the hat. As for @Ian Key's AI generated snow-storm -...

2/10 to AI... a) tyre track stops in middle of nowhere and b) if that much snow had fallen on the car since it was parked, the tyre tracks would have been covered up 🤓

Are you a back seat driver?

Shut up Terry ⛄

From post #291

Nothing is decided, it's published and open to feedback.

(y) That was discussed in the government consultation document

LOL... only on paper; most of the UK grid still runs around 240V. They just increased the tolerances. Our old specification of 240V +/- 6% (so 226V to 254V) was changed in 1995 for EU harmonisation to be nominally 230V +10% / -6% (so 216V to 253V). In practice no changes were made to the...

Where have you been? Economy 7 had similar higher day rates - from 1970's till now ;)

Chargers will charge at a specific current. And, from Watts law, we know that P = V x I (power = volts x amps). So variations of power delivered via an EVSE will be a linearly related to grid voltage, which itself could be as low as 216V and as high as 253V, though more commonly around 240V in...

Or @Bricktop X PWR doing laps of his private rally stage!

The issue with the flat rate is that it hits those only doing say 1000 miles a year disproportionately if they are going to rake in the same amount as before

Don't forget "Travel abroad". That's my biggest annoyance with the proposed system :(

So an XPower then ;)

How does that help someone in the UK? :unsure:

Perfect.

Is that thin stockings for when it's warm outside?

Is it though? I thought the temp "up there" is fairly constant at around -50°C :unsure: ✈️

Maybe it's a HV battery system :unsure: Sounds as useful as VW's bidirectional charging system and a chocolate teapot combined :( I bet (a) it will be expensive and (b) quickly redundant unless you want to keep buying Polestars :( Yep- that won't be doable easily. The big issue with HV...

When I was looking at MG4's it was about 400 vs. 300, but that was over a year ago - I think premiums have dropped since then.

... apart from the price of your insurance policy ;) The other consideration is the ER's are rarer, so less to choose between when looking at used vehicles.

& This ^^^^ Thanks to Kirchhoff's current law :)

Keep us updated.

Ours (gas boiler for CH and HW) uses about 100W when it is running. The actual boilers themselves don't use much power, it is the water circulation pump that will typically be in the 60W to 90W range for an average sized house. As above, when it is running and pumping it is consuming power...

That's a bit 1970's if you've got home energy battery system and EV with V2L ⛺

Personally I doubt an "update" will fix an AC charging issue. Something is broken. And it might not be a quick fix. @Ian Key's took 4.5 months and he had to DC charge meanwhile :( from a month before this post...

(y) it does make you wonder what preparation the dealer did to the vehicle?

Not much time - you only have until next Tuesday to reject it. from... Rejecting a car – your consumer rights | The Car Expert Short-term right to reject – the first 30 days If your new or used car has a significant fault that was present when you bought it (as opposed to developing...

Under CRA2015 IIRC you can reject a vehicle within 30 days of purchase from a dealer - does not apply to purchase from a private individual.

(y) Here's my thought... IMHO, "Potentially" is not "no", hence it must be taken as being "yes" in the context of your question. The way I would best extrapolate that ambiguous response is that the warranty "may have been compromised depending on the nature of the fault that is subject to...

For 9 months of the year, mine is charged from our solar panels 🤷‍♀️ It is all generated from the sun, ultimately. Just some of it was generated a long time ago. All my daytime charging is from direct solar, so 3p per mile is an even more eye-watering infinity % :)

Pic break rules paints 1000 words. ladder is twisted Santa will tumble :( by some miracle I got A 🤷‍♀️ fingers crossed here 🤞