Locked in my MG4 & unable to escape - Serious Safety Issue

[AndyL61]

Or " it's been fitted" and then quite clearly hasn't

That's why I asked , there was someone else on here or on FB who had been told that by the dealer and then found it to be not true and guess what. They got the leak. You cannot trust them .

 

[Sloucher]

Have you managed to check that the new breather has been fitted. Not suggesting that it hasn't but every other dealer is saying they can only fit when a leak has been confirmed and approved by MG UK ?

To be honest, no I haven't. I'm not that enthusiastic in getting wet squirming under the car to check (assuming I can see anything without removing the undertray).Looking under the car as best I can there doesn't seem to be any oil leak (so far), my drive is currently oil-free. I hope I can assume from that, that either I do have the modified breather or mine doesn't leak. Either way I'm happy.

 

[sectokia]

This car is going to be recalled.

All cars are required to have an emergency door release.

The door release is usually either the handle itself (operating mechanically), or a lever (usually near the window buttons, in the door storage compartment, and sometimes on the A-pillar near where you reach for a seat belt.

The MG4 was just rejected in Australia as an inspector noticed there was no emergency door release, and they were unable to exit the vehicle with power removed.

Imagine if you drive into water or have a smash and cannot quickly exit the vehicle due to a software/electrical fault. Unacceptable. Don't know what UK rules are, but this is a joke, no software update can fix the fact that you cannot mechanically open the doors.

 

[siteguru]

The emergency exit is in the boot.

 

[vini]

just curious - how do you open the boot from the inside, should you have to? and apologies if its already been explained

 

[Cocijo]

This car is going to be recalled.

All cars are required to have an emergency door release.

The door release is usually either the handle itself (operating mechanically), or a lever (usually near the window buttons, in the door storage compartment, and sometimes on the A-pillar near where you reach for a seat belt.

The MG4 was just rejected in Australia as an inspector noticed there was no emergency door release and they were unable to exit the vehicle with power removed.

Imagine if you drive into water or have a smash and cannot quickly exit the vehicle due to a software/electrical fault. Unacceptable. Don't know what UK rules are, but this is a joke.

So the door handle operates a servo and does not physically open the latch?

 

[bowfer]

Imagine if you drive into water or have a smash and cannot quickly exit the vehicle due to a software/electrical fault. Unacceptable. Don't know what UK rules are, but this is a joke, no software update can fix the fact that you cannot mechanically open the doors.

Precisely what happened to a family of 5 in an Audi Q7 in Buncrana in Ireland.
All drowned.
So I ‘assume’ the asustralia requirement isn’t a uk requirement.

 

[liberostelios]

Precisely what happened to a family of 5 in an Audi Q7 in Buncrana in Ireland.
All drowned.
So I ‘assume’ the asustralia requirement isn’t a uk requirement.

Although I also think that the car would be much safer if it had manual overrides for the door handles, I don't think you would be able to open the door or the boot if you fall into the water anyway. The best thing to do in such a case is to break the window with the emergency hammer and exit through it.

 

[siteguru]

Having mechanical latches overriding the deadlock security somewhat defeats the intended purpose of the security locking, does it not? (To refer back to why this thread was started and what the intent was behind the mechanism).

 

[Cocijo]

I thought that all cars with electronic door latches had manual overrides. There’s also the flat battery manual key override.

 

[Deleted member 10041]

The MG4 was just rejected in Australia as an inspector noticed there was no emergency door release, and they were unable to exit the vehicle with power removed.

That's pretty big news to be fair

 

[siteguru]

What happens in your Megane if power is lost?

 

[Cocijo]

Having mechanical latches overriding the deadlock security somewhat defeats the intended purpose of the security locking, does it not? (To refer back to why this thread was started and what the intent was behind the mechanism).

Security dead locks can still work with manual safety override handles. They just detect when key is not in car and deadlock when alarm is enabled.

 

[Deleted member 10041]

What happens in your Megane if power is lost?

No idea to be fair, might look into that

 

[Cocijo]

What happens in your Megane if power is lost?

No idea to be fair, might look into that

Anyway back to the thread…

 

[Deleted member 10041]

Sorry

 

[Cocijo]

I’m actually looking at your car on Friday!

 

[siteguru]

I’m actually looking at your car on Friday!

Are you going to try and steal it?

 

[bowfer]

Although I also think that the car would be much safer if it had manual overrides for the door handles, I don't think you would be able to open the door or the boot if you fall into the water anyway. The best thing to do in such a case is to break the window with the emergency hammer and exit through it.

Not everyone has an emergency hammer, or knows that the bottom of the headrest posts allegedly double up as one.

 

[troopercooper]

This car is going to be recalled.

All cars are required to have an emergency door release.

The door release is usually either the handle itself (operating mechanically), or a lever (usually near the window buttons, in the door storage compartment, and sometimes on the A-pillar near where you reach for a seat belt.

The MG4 was just rejected in Australia as an inspector noticed there was no emergency door release, and they were unable to exit the vehicle with power removed.

Imagine if you drive into water or have a smash and cannot quickly exit the vehicle due to a software/electrical fault. Unacceptable. Don't know what UK rules are, but this is a joke, no software update can fix the fact that you cannot mechanically open the doors.

Its a really good point! I remember years back there was a big faff on regarding the Tesla M3 having the emergency override at the top of the handle and overuse of it would cause long-term damage. Caused some disruption regarding the need of it and the bottom line was that it needed to stay.