MG4 ER - Time for new tyres

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Hi all. The time has come after 48,500kms to change the original bridgestones on my MG4 ER. Looking for input on replacements for Australian hot weather conditions. No ice, snow etc requirements 😀. For the same Bridgestones I have been quoted $415 per tyre. An equiv maxxis EV tyre is around $350 each but I have zero knowledge or experience of Maxxis on cars. All and any input welcome. My main requirements are excellent wear and a quiet tyre.
 
Hi all. The time has come after 48,500kms to change the original bridgestones on my MG4 ER. Looking for input on replacements for Australian hot weather conditions. No ice, snow etc requirements 😀. For the same Bridgestones I have been quoted $415 per tyre. An equiv maxxis EV tyre is around $350 each but I have zero knowledge or experience of Maxxis on cars. All and any input welcome. My main requirements are excellent wear and a quiet tyre.
I've been looking into replacements for my 77 too as I'm close to 40,000 KS and want to be prepared for when I do need new ones.

The Turanza 6 is the latest version of the tyre and supposedly is a bit quieter again with slightly improved rolling resistance as well.

Bob Jane currently shows them at $349 with the 005 at $384.

I've noticed they regularly have buy 4 / pay 3 sales on various brands and plan on waiting til I'm in need of new tires and then seeing what "low rolling resistance" models are available.
 
Thanks guys. So yeh seems the T6 is cheaper than the T5. Hard to find stock of either Bridgestone or maxxis locally though. So far T005 4 x $401 ($1,604), T006 4 x $349 ($1,396). Maxxis vs-ev 4 x $319 ($1,276) or on the get 4 and pay for 3 are Yokohama sport v108 total of $1348 and stock avail. Think I will try the yokahamas ??
 
To start with; The Turanza T005 comes with less thread from the factory (only 6mm instead of the more standard 8). I couldn't find clear proof that the T006 does the same, but it is likely as apparently they don't differ too much. Then there’s the chance you get charged more on the retail side of things because it is an OE fitment tyre. Bridgestone would’ve sold them extremely cheaply to MG, hoping people will just replace like for like, and that’s where they recoup that initial hit. Which is why I wouldn't bother with like-for-like OE tyres. On a personal note, I also don't like the wet weather performance of the Turanza, but that is subjective of course.

In terms of brands, you can never go wrong with a Michelin, the Primacy is a good tyre, or if you have a heavy foot and like a spirited drive, perhaps the Pilot Sport 4 or 5 suits a little better (taking into consideration the extra torque the ER has).

There is also a Pirelli P Zero E if you wanted to upgrade to a run-flat, considering the car does not have a spare tyre. This may affect the drive though, as the run flat tyres will flex less.

These are of course top brands that do a lot of marketing, and in the end you pay for that. A few brands that are a little less known are Toyo, Falken, and Kumho. Toyo does the Proxes CR1, which offers a good level of grip and durability. Falken does the FK520, which is Michelin level performance and has grip for days (I run the FK510's on my RCZ and absolutely love them) but the softer compound (which is how they grip) may mean they'll wear a little quicker. The FK520 is not optimised for EV though. Kumho does the Ecsta PS71, which is supposed to be an all-rounder, but in my experience they focus a bit more on durability over the rest, so more kilometers, but less performance. I had Ecstas on my Peugeot 308, and didn't really like them.

I don't have much experience with the Yokohama, we used to use them for some niche sized off road tyres, or some semi slicks for people who wanted to drive their cars to the track. Some feedback I've found online stated they have amazing efficiency, but are horrible for grip. That's just what a stranger on-line said though. I wouldn't be against trying Yokohamas on my own car, just never have.

After these brands you get in the ranges of Maxxis and other budget brands. Maxxis probably hovers a little in between the mid range and the "they're black and round" range, but I wouldn't expect great durability out of them. The "round and black" brands will either offer no grip and be hard as rock to last as long as possible, or they have such soft compounds the will grip and wear down quick. A mechanic once sold some Delmax tyres to a friend to go drifting, and they gripped so much the car effectively lost the ability to drift. Cheap tyres, like so many things in life, will end up costing you more in the long run.

I think the only time we recommended Maxxis tyres was for a mining company that drove their utes over some crazy sharp edged rocks (the one they mined) and their tyres never wore out because the sidewalls would get slashed before that could happen. After trying the toughest (and very expensive) sidewalls they could find, they ended up just going cheap and heaps.

On a final note, "buy 3 get 1 free" isn't always the best deal, as it tends to be a discount to the tyre merchant, who will still charge you for fitting all 4 tyres. If the tyres you want are on special, that's great luck, but I wouldn't change my mind to go with something on special over what I want.

Thank you for enduring my Ted Talk, I'll be in town to answer any other questions that may arise. 😄
 
Thanks for the Ted talk, lots of great info and would agree with the overpriced T005 and their lack of wet grip. Albeit as you know on the west coast more dry and hot vs wet. Bridgestone said the 48,500kms on the originals was a good run and I am not a light footed driver.... true that soft and grippy means less kms. My previous mx5 on bridgestone s001's was great for grip track and road but didn't last long. I hear that Michelin are great and certainly on my motorbike are great even if a bit soft for the extra grip. I will be the guinea pig for local MG4's and had a set of the maxxis EV specific tyres fitted this afternoon. Initial drive seemed very good but that was compared to pretty beat up originals. They seem to be very quiet and extremely quick to change direction. Time will tell on wear but I am advised I should get at least the same kms as the t005's. Likely no wet testing for a while looking at forecasts here... for anyone interested the tyre pressure sensors were simply swapped over and they are not front or rear specific. No alerts so far. Given I had a vibration at around 100kph since new, I will be looking to see if that has now been resolved with new tyres, balanced all round. Thanks for the responses and input.
 
You have done well lasting 48k km with the added weight of the ER battery. My Sydney based LR 64, used mainly for short trips around the burbs, was forecast by the tyre shop, where I had the wheels rebalanced and aligned, to need new tyres before it hits 30k. It seems urban use with its multiple tight turns and constant accelerating and braking is far worse for tyres than driving outside the city. My tyres are similarly worn front and back, so it's not because someone (not me) has been using sport mode!
 
Yeh I was pretty happy with the mileage on the originals. I am not light on the pedal, do mostly home to city driving at 60km a day and a mix of highway, gravel road when taking my mountain bike out on weekends (so some added weight on the back). Did that 48,500 km in just on 26 months and swapped front to back at around 28,000 as I noticed the front were a lot less worn than the rear so wanted to even them out. All four finished with very even wear and just about getting to the wear limiters. They all had even wear across all tyres, so no alignment issues either. Always ran them a couple of psi above alert threshold to stop any annoying alerts on colder mornings.
 
We found our T005s had poor grip when going round a roundabout in heavy rain. A little flick from the back end, but nothing major.

But I've been complaining since we got our LR about the crashy ride.
Had the rears swapped for Hankook Ventus Prime 4 recently.

Just out of interest, I got an online quote from Jax to see how they compare to prices here in the UK.

They quoted $892 on a 4 for 3 offer. 235 45 18 98W XL, which seems insanely cheap.

Where I had my rears changed, if I had got 4, it would have cost $1363.02. (Edit: typo with the price).

Jax's price is still cheaper even when you take into account the discounted offer.

Anyway, the crashy ride on the car has improved no end! No doubt if we swapped the fronts, it would get even better.
 
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We found our T005s had poor grip when going round a roundabout in heavy rain. A little flick from the back end, but nothing major.

But I've been complaining since we got our LR about the crashy ride.
Had the rears swapped for Hankook Ventus Prime 4 recently.

Just out of interest, I got an online quote from Jax to see how they compare to prices here in the UK.

They quoted $892 on a 4 for 3 offer. 235 45 18 98W XL, which seems insanely cheap.

Where I had my rears changed, if I had got 4, it would have cost $1263.02.

Jax's price is still cheaper even when you take into account the discounted offer.

Anyway, the crashy ride on the car has improved no end! No doubt if we swapped the fronts, it would get even better.
For the few times we get rain here, I would agree, not a lot of grip in the wet from the original bridgestones but being rear wheel drive was very controllable. What I found more scary was the OPD in the wet when going around a curved freeway offramp and crossing the metal expansion strip's on the road!!! Off accelerator, turning and OPD regen locked stuff up as it hit the slippery metal strip.. the car had a mental breakdown and software had no idea what to do with traction control vs regen hahahaha 😅
 
I have been looking at a new set of boots for my XPower. Talking with a supplier who I know gives good advice and he has pointed me towards the Yokohama Advan SportV108 EV. His opinion is they perform well above their price point and also have quite good longevity. The XPower will put more demands on the rubber than the single motor varieties.

The original Turanza's have now done 32,000 km but are close to the depth markers.
 

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