V2L - vehicle to load adapter / cable

[Coulomb]

Sorry, no pictures

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[ Edit: Sigh. Somehow I managed to end up near the end of this thread, without having read the earlier posts. So now I'm one of those annoying people... Reading now, I see it's all explained. ]

So, is there no other electronics in this? Just the resistor required?

This seems such a fluke. For example, it looks like the connector may actually be designed for use in China, where they have type 2 connectors, but gender (male and female) are swapped. I didn't think that they were perfectly compatible other than that.

How did you decide on the 440Ω resistor? Trial and error?

Does the 680Ω resistor also work? Or not as well somehow?

Edit: and of course, a massive thanks to all that made this possible.

 

[Julian256]

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[ Edit: Sigh. Somehow I managed to end up near the end of this thread, without having read the earlier posts. So now I'm one of those annoying people... Reading now, I see it's all explained. ]

So, is there no other electronics in this? Just the resistor required?

This seems such a fluke. For example, it looks like the connector may actually be designed for use in China, where they have type 2 connectors, but gender (male and female) are swapped. I didn't think that they were perfectly compatible other than that.

How did you decide on the 440Ω resistor? Trial and error?

Does the 680Ω resistor also work? Or not as well somehow?

Edit: and of course, a massive thanks to all that made this possible.

680Ω doesn't work - I tried that. But today I'm going to try some other, more common resistor values - 430Ω 470Ω 390Ω 510Ω etc. I'll report back.

EDIT: I tried lots of different resistors between PP and PE.
Recognised as a V2L cable: 390Ω, 430Ω, 470Ω, 510Ω and 560Ω. I would recommend the middle value 470Ω.
Not recognised as a V2L cable: 330Ω and 620Ω. These were interpreted by the car as a charge cable.

 

[Julian256]

You can now buy a V2L cable (for the 2022 MG ZS EV) from evcables.co.uk in a range of cable lengths, cable colours and socket types.

MG V2L Adapter für Schuko, CEE, UK-Steckdosen

Wottz V2L Adapter für MG: Ihre Mobile Energiestation auf Rädern. Verfügbar in Typ 2 zu Schuko, CEE oder UK-Steckdosen. BITTE BEACHTEN: Wir haben Berichte erhalten, dass die neuesten Lieferungen (06/2023) der MG ZS Modelle die V2L-Funktionalität deaktiviert oder entfernt haben. Bitte bestätigen...

evcables.co.uk

 

[Lovemyev]

You can now buy a V2L cable (for the 2022 MG ZS EV) from evcables.co.uk in a range of cable lengths, cable colours and socket types.

MG V2L Adapter für Schuko, CEE, UK-Steckdosen

Wottz V2L Adapter für MG: Ihre Mobile Energiestation auf Rädern. Verfügbar in Typ 2 zu Schuko, CEE oder UK-Steckdosen. BITTE BEACHTEN: Wir haben Berichte erhalten, dass die neuesten Lieferungen (06/2023) der MG ZS Modelle die V2L-Funktionalität deaktiviert oder entfernt haben. Bitte bestätigen...

evcables.co.uk

Thanks for uploading the link !.
The price is reasonable as well.
Have you ordered one yet ?.

 

[Julian256]

Thanks for uploading the link !.
The price is reasonable as well.
Have you ordered one yet ?.

I ordered a bespoke cable from them 3 days ago, showed it working on my car (in their car park) and now they're offering it for sale. Big thanks to James at evcables.co.uk

 

[JohnInFrance]

I ordered a bespoke cable from them 3 days ago, showed it working on my car (in their car park) and now they're offering it for sale. Big thanks to James at evcables.co.uk

I hope you're getting commission !

 

[Lovemyev]

I ordered a bespoke cable from them 3 days ago, showed it working on my car (in their car park) and now they're offering it for sale. Big thanks to James at evcables.co.uk

Thanks !.
I have just ordered a 5m double socket cable myself !.

 

[Julian256]

I hope you're getting commission !

No commission - I just really wanted a cable

 

[Lovemyev]

I ordered a bespoke cable from them 3 days ago, showed it working on my car (in their car park)

Easy enough to use @Julian256 ???.

 

[Gandalfharrow]

What if you plug the V2L adapter into a 15 amp household power-point - will appliances in the house work?

I would say that was a dangerous idea, as to plug it into a 13 amp outlet that plug would be live with exposed terminals on it... Be very careful.

 

[Maciej]

I would say that was a dangerous idea, as to plug it into a 13 amp outlet that plug would be live with exposed terminals on it... Be very careful.

To add to that here is reddit thread about trying something like this and why this is bad idea unless you know exactly what you are doing

 

[hmadsen]

Wow, pretty shocking, i was sure the reason they wanted so much for the adaptor was because it was acutally an inverter (battery DC voltage to 230V AC) but if the car is able to output the 230V AC directly on the plug, then there is no electronics needed.

 

[LittlePluggers]

You can now buy a V2L cable (for the 2022 MG ZS EV) from evcables.co.uk in a range of cable lengths, cable colours and socket types.

MG V2L Adapter für Schuko, CEE, UK-Steckdosen

Wottz V2L Adapter für MG: Ihre Mobile Energiestation auf Rädern. Verfügbar in Typ 2 zu Schuko, CEE oder UK-Steckdosen. BITTE BEACHTEN: Wir haben Berichte erhalten, dass die neuesten Lieferungen (06/2023) der MG ZS Modelle die V2L-Funktionalität deaktiviert oder entfernt haben. Bitte bestätigen...

evcables.co.uk

Wahey, just ordered.

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[Harry]

Wahey, just ordered.

Use 5OFFNOW to get 5% off you purchase.

Price has almost doubled since yesterday!

 

[Ealing Guy]

Found this adaptor on ebay but looks a bit dodgy : Female EV BEV PHEV Car Type 2 Plug to UK 13A Universal Charger Adapter for Cable | eBay

 

[adamback]

I thinking to build my own cabel (import from UK, no fun)
Instead of putting the resistors in the “handel” can I put it at the other end off the five meter cabel?

 

[PremierscfcEV]

Found this adaptor on ebay but looks a bit dodgy : Female EV BEV PHEV Car Type 2 Plug to UK 13A Universal Charger Adapter for Cable | eBay

I wonder if this actually works on MG's?

 

[LittlePluggers]

Price has almost doubled since yesterday!

Oops, I did also post the link on Facebook maybe they have had a huge surge in demand.

 

[Coulomb]

Found this adaptor on ebay but looks a bit dodgy

It seems fine to me, if it works out of the box with MGs (unlikely), or for DIY types, if it can be opened. I can't see from the photos.

 

[Coulomb]

Instead of putting the resistors in the “handel” can I put it at the other end off the five metre cable?

Usually not. It's the Proximity Pilot that needs the resistor, and usually there isn't a wire for that in the cable. Also, type two usually has a resistor at both ends, from memory. So you'd have to change that resistor anyway.

But type 2 plugs can usually be opened with a suitable Torx tool. A J1772 (type 1) I opened recently opened with a T9 non-security bit.