All-new MG4 enters mass production in China, official debut set for August

[Tuareg]

More complexity for minimal if zero advantage. People need to move on from their ICE 'roots' and embrace the advantages of EV 'transmission' and the beauty of simplicity with performance.

 

[WonkoTheSaneUK]

Correct, as discussed at the end of the podcast last night, MGUK have opted not to bring this facelifted version of the MG4 to the UK.

I don't think Autocar got that memo.

The new MG 4 is expect to land in Europe imminently | Autocar

Second-generation EV already on sale in China, but design now filed with European legislators

www.autocar.co.uk

 

[gary333]

You miss the point it engages seamlessly.

As I understand it all electric cars are already geared with the motor going through a drop gear in the diff. The overdrive in many cars were electric and and seamless. There is no gear change to operate, it just means the motor is going slower at 70 mph than it would be normally and this results in less electricity used therefore increasing range.

Should you need the instant torque at higher speeds the car will sense this as you push the throttle and engage the lower the gearing without any driver input and without lag or noise.

I am not sure, but I think some high ends evs already use this tech, but I stand to be corrected

Pretty sure an electric motor isn’t like a petrol engine, higher revs on a motor doesn’t equal higher power consumption. I believe a 2 stage EV is using a gearbox to attain a top speed only, because without it, it’s maximum revs aren’t enough to achieve said top speed.

 

[unbornidentity]

I think the Taycan has a 2-speed gearbox?

It does. There is a new merc out with a 2 speed gearbox to improve efficiency at high speed too.

 

[unbornidentity]

I don't think Autocar got that memo.

The new MG 4 is expect to land in Europe imminently | Autocar

Second-generation EV already on sale in China, but design now filed with European legislators

www.autocar.co.uk

Hope it looks better in the metal than the pictures. Although I’m very unlikely to buy an MG again anyway after my after sales experience with them over the XPower vibes issue.

Once bitten and all that!

 

[Kevin Smith]

They can keep the looks but the semi solid state battery would be good - I'd like the car a bit lighter with a bit more range than the SE and heading towards 5m/kWh...

 

[salty]

The illuminated front MG badge looks good. And I do like a full length rear light bar.... Er.... that's it.

 

[T1 Terry]

Watched this video besides shifting the direction selector to the steering column, it doesn't do anything for me ..... he asked if you had a spare AUD$40,000 to drop on a new car, would you buy it, or what would you buy ..... so I put in the comments I'd drop another $10,000 on the $40,000 and buy an MG XPower, in a sleeper colour, debadge it and go out and play boy racer

T1 Terry

 

[Chrisdriving]

So would SAIC still build the current design just for MGUK or are they buying up a shed load of current design to store up and sell for the next couple of years?

 

[STG]

What a blob! They think it looks premium but to me it looks like a cheap blob. The styling is quite poor, well when my 4 gets changed in 18 months I won't be going for this.

 

[Tuareg]

So would SAIC still build the current design just for MGUK or are they buying up a shed load of current design to store up and sell for the next couple of years?

The market outside of China is much, much bigger than the UK

 

[tsedge]

I don't think Autocar got that memo.

The new MG 4 is expect to land in Europe imminently | Autocar

Second-generation EV already on sale in China, but design now filed with European legislators

www.autocar.co.uk

If you read the story, it is clear there's no confirmation it will come here. Miles was clear on the last podcast that MGUK have said to dealers that it isn't coming. They might change their minds but they may also wait for the replacement vehicle in 2-3 years time.

 

[tsedge]

So would SAIC still build the current design just for MGUK or are they buying up a shed load of current design to store up and sell for the next couple of years?

Continuing to make an existing design in one factory is a pretty cheap option compared to retooling for a facelift.

I suppose it is possible that MG decide they want to convert all production to the new model, in which case I guess the UK will have to take it.

I can't see MGUK wanting the financial risk of pre-buying thousands of MG4s and trying to guess how many they will sell.

 

[tsedge]

They can keep the looks but the semi solid state battery would be good - I'd like the car a bit lighter with a bit more range than the SE and heading towards 5m/kWh...

I think you will be waiting a while. Semi-solid state will initially have quite a price premium, so I think they will focus it on the IM5 and IM6 high-end MGs.

 

[Mouss]

You miss the point it engages seamlessly.

As I understand it all electric cars are already geared with the motor going through a drop gear in the diff. The overdrive in many cars were electric and and seamless. There is no gear change to operate, it just means the motor is going slower at 70 mph than it would be normally and this results in less electricity used therefore increasing range.

Should you need the instant torque at higher speeds the car will sense this as you push the throttle and engage the lower the gearing without any driver input and without lag or noise.

I am not sure, but I think some high ends evs already use this tech, but I stand to be corrected

+1
MG Marvel R got 2 gears

 

[T1 Terry]

I believe they intend to continue the current shape MG4 in Australia and either give it a different name, or give the new look one a name of it's own.
What use would oppo phone connectivity be, outside of China? Do they think people will buy a phone that is compatible with their vehicles

T1 Terry

 

[MG Clive]

This looks much more appealing in a better colour, not the best quality pictures, taken from Facebook.

 

[T1 Terry]

More complexity for minimal if zero advantage. People need to move on from their ICE 'roots' and embrace the advantages of EV 'transmission' and the beauty of simplicity with performance.

The Lexus GS 450h has the L110 transmission which is a two motor 2 sp unit, upgraded with the Zombieverter developed by Damien Maguire and the people on the open inverter forum, so both motors drive, the combination of a peak 250kw and the deep reduction makes an excellent drive unit for a heavier vehicle to be able to take off on a hill start, the change is as smooth as you want to program into it, so the potential for a great street racer as well ....

T1 Terry

 

[Buster72]

Have to say I prefer the existing style. The biggest benefit of the new version is the significant mass reduction which will improve efficiency. Mine is 2½ years old into a 4 year PCP, so I will be interested in the new car then.

 

[MG Clive]

MG have started thinking about you @salty