Locked out

[flawia]

I can see only one person who has implied it didn't happen and they were admonished for it.

But no, no-one else has reported a similar situation.

Very unlucky

I have actually found a few posts now on this forum describing similar situation - all specifically mention car locking out with a key in a boot and so I am starting to think there might be a real issue there:

Thread 'Locked out with keys in the boot !'

Dec 13, 2021

My wife opened up the rear hatch yesterday and put in her handbag with the car keys into the boot. Closed rear hatch.

When she tried to open the driver door- it was locked, and so was the rear hatch !

We mistakenly assumed that the keys in the car would allow access to the vehicle due to the proximity of the key. WRONG!

Thankfully it wasnt too far from home and I was able to rescue her with the spare key.

I could not find any information in the manual about the proximity settings for unlocking the car. Any ideas?

• midician
• boot keys locked out mg hs
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• Forum: MG HS / EHS 2020-2024 Plug-in Hybrid Forum

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Thread 'Keys locked inside car - not smart!'

Sep 20, 2023

Managed to lock myself out of the car today by accidentally leaving the key in my golf bag. Opened the electric tailgate, loaded the bag into the boot and closed the tailgate. I assumed the car was smart enough not to lock with a key inside (since I'm clearly not that smart) but I was wrong. Beware, and don't make the same assumption!

• JohnMG
• keys mg hs
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• Forum: MG HS / EHS 2020-2024 Plug-in Hybrid Forum

 

[Everest]

We believe you

 

[siteguru]

We believe you

Well, most of us do.

 

[LenEV2016]

To everyone saying this hasn't happen. It unfortunately did. And I came here to see if anyone else has had this happening to them before I talk to MG dealership.

Don't worry about that member every village has one and he's ours.

This forum is great at finding solutions and for the most part very helpful with a great knowledge of the car.

Have you tried to recreate the scenario to see if it repeats itself, obviously this time having the spare close by!

It would be good if you could recreate it for the dealer, a lot of MG dealers need led by the hand and pictures work better for them they struggle with words. Would save getting into a debate with the dealer.

 

[Kithmo]

A poor response by the RAC, does the AA have the same rule now ?
When I was an AA patrol many years ago, lockouts and flat batteries were the two most common call outs.

 

[Jamesrr]

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Have you tried to recreate the scenario to see if it repeats itself, obviously this time having the spare close by!

I'm intrigued now. I think I might try to see if I can replicate it myself.

 

[Everest]

I'm intrigued now. I think I might try to see if I can replicate it myself.

Do you have a handbag, then?

 

[Rolfe]

When I was at the vintage car show at Thirlstane Castle a couple of weeks ago I put my bag with the key in it into the boot and shut the boot, then thought, OMG what have I done! I knew this lockout thing was a possibility, and I actually did it with my previous car, a Golf, though with an ordinary key not one of these smart things that the car can sense. I was lucky, I immediately tried to re-open the boot and it opened normally. Either the car wasn't locked, or the bag was in a position where the car could sense it, I'm not sure.

This is another reason for my habit of keeping the key inside my bra. It's always there and it's not leaving my person during the day. It's not absolutely foolproof, mind you...

Thread 'If you think putting your car key through the washing machine is bad...'

Sunday at 10:39 PM

It's common knowledge that I keep my car key inside my bra, so I never even have to think about which pocket or handbag it's in, and do I have it on me. Last night when I came back from my road trip I was aware that it had fallen on the bedroom floor when I was getting undressed, but I didn't do anything to tidy it up. This morning I was putting more or less the same clothes on, and looked around for the key, but couldn't see it. Oh well, I wasn't taking the car out, so I just left it. I know it's there somewhere, I'll get it later. Got on my bike to go to church. Nothing noteworthy...

• Rolfe
• car key key washing washing machine
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• Forum: General Chat Forum

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[Everest]

It's always there and it's not leaving my person during the day

... except when you go to church

 

[Jamesrr]

Do you have a handbag, then?

No... A set of golf clubs

 

[Rolfe]

... except when you go to church

If I'd seen it when I was getting dressed it would have been in its usual place. But when I couldn't see it, and I knew I wasn't taking the car, I just left it. I've no idea how it managed to be on my person after all, and in a position to become detached!

 

[OriginalBigAl]

Also, if the key fob battery is getting to the end of its life and cannot transmit over the distance required , especially when surrounded by hand bag paraphernalia, so the various aerials in the car don't get the signal. A hard earned lesson for one ( or three ) we should not ignore.

 

[Everest]

Also, if the key fob battery is getting to the end of its life and cannot transmit over the distance required , especially when surrounded by hand bag paraphernalia, so the various aerials in the car don't get the signal. A hard earned lesson for one ( or three ) we should not ignore.

But does that explain the automatic locking?

 

[Alb]

That can happen in the scenario of the whole car being locked but just the boot being opened.

 

[MG Clive]

Also, if the key fob battery is getting to the end of its life and cannot transmit over the distance required , especially when surrounded by hand bag paraphernalia, so the various aerials in the car don't get the signal. A hard earned lesson for one ( or three ) we should not ignore.

I like this low battery possibility, ordinarily you can't lock the keys in the boot, but if the boot was opened alone (without unlocking the car doors), it would automatically re-lock when closed, and if the key fob battery was low, or the signal shielded, it would not be able to prevent the auto re-locking.

 

[Tuareg]

That can happen in the scenario of the whole car being locked but just the boot being opened.

Nope. If the car is locked, the boot can't be opened if the key isn't in the range of the car. If the car is locked and the key IS in range, the boot can be opened. However, if the key is then placed in the boot and the tailgate closed, the tailgate will immediately and physically pop back open because the key is inside the car. You can't lock the key inside any part of the car, actually an excellent system.

 

[Martinonline]

The key must be in the car to drive so there must be something special if, as you say, the boot will pop open if the key inside the car. (Edit: I assume you mean it will still pop up when the handle is pressed?)

Really, it is important to have reasonable access to the spare keyfob (regularly tested) and the app (on a personal or friend's phone with remembered login credentials).

 

[Archev]

When I was at the vintage car show at Thirlstane Castle a couple of weeks ago I put my bag with the key in it into the boot and shut the boot, then thought, OMG what have I done! I knew this lockout thing was a possibility, and I actually did it with my previous car, a Golf, though with an ordinary key not one of these smart things that the car can sense. I was lucky, I immediately tried to re-open the boot and it opened normally. Either the car wasn't locked, or the bag was in a position where the car could sense it, I'm not sure.

This is another reason for my habit of keeping the key inside my bra. It's always there and it's not leaving my person during the day. It's not absolutely foolproof, mind you...

Thread 'If you think putting your car key through the washing machine is bad...'

Sunday at 10:39 PM

It's common knowledge that I keep my car key inside my bra, so I never even have to think about which pocket or handbag it's in, and do I have it on me. Last night when I came back from my road trip I was aware that it had fallen on the bedroom floor when I was getting undressed, but I didn't do anything to tidy it up. This morning I was putting more or less the same clothes on, and looked around for the key, but couldn't see it. Oh well, I wasn't taking the car out, so I just left it. I know it's there somewhere, I'll get it later. Got on my bike to go to church. Nothing noteworthy...

• Rolfe
• car key key washing washing machine
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• Forum: General Chat Forum

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I’ve just discovered lately that I can lock and unlock my Berlingo with the app on my phone.
I also sat up after a night’s sleep in the back and hit one of the three switches on the ceiling which control the rear passenger lights. One of the switches appeared to unlock the doors and I meant to get back to it to check but forgot about it until now.

 

[LenEV2016]

I wonder if because the key was in the bag next to a phone it was messing with the signal

 

[Tuareg]

The key must be in the car to drive so there must be something special if, as you say, the boot will pop open if the key inside the car. (Edit: I assume you mean it will still pop up when the handle is pressed?)

Really, it is important to have reasonable access to the spare keyfob (regularly tested) and the app (on a personal or friend's phone with remembered login credentials).

No, the handle doesn't need to be pressed. Simply close the tailgate while the car is in 'locked' mode (wing mirrors retracted on the Xpower for example) while the key is in the car and the tailgate will pop open by itself without being touched. It's to remind you that the key is still in the car and to remove it.