Previously said we have the newest model as fleet cars at work and they are still really efficient, I have done a mix of driving over the winter and the lowest economy I've seen is 3.5 m /kWh
And that was a really cold day with lots of stop starting journeys
Refreshed mini countryman is supposed to be good, they have made it more efficient (changed parts in the motor and bearings apparently on the 2026 model.
65kwh usable battery over 310 mile range, plenty space and luggage capacity and brand new £30k
There is no getting away from the fact that winter hammers EV range ( on the current mainstream battery chemistries) far more than it impacts ice cars, hopefully the new chemistries in development alleviate this
It is a real shame as you are obviously pretty invested in the car/brand, so much so you do the podcast but you have certainly had a few niggles!
As I've said previously it's not the faults any car can have them, it's how they are dealt with that brings customers back and MG UK are poor...
There has been no updates, no MGs in the UK get OTA updates, the cars are capable of receiving them but MG haven't enabled them.
Apparently the IM cars are due to receive OTA updates at some point this year but no confirmed dates.
Personally I think the OTA function has never been enabled due...
It's a real shame as the vast majority on here love there cars and I get that.
However there are far too many stories of fights with dealers (and it's all over, not just the same one or two) to make a lot of people not return for a second MG.
The warranty work should be seamless (it's covered...
Always thought the service was good with previous VWs, not EVs to be fair, excellent with my Cupra, obviously same group, and EV servicing is only every 2 years.
The big kid in me really fancies the performance of an X Power and I like the look of the facelift but after the hassle and...
Lots of heavy powerful cars out there without suspension parts giving up the ghost at 3 years, it's poor the dealer is even debating.
Speaks more to the hassle of MG authorising warranty repairs unfortunately
Unfortunately sounds like another example of poor MG after sales.
It isn't an EV thing, as I've had a few and never had it.
Could be poor quality parts
I'm talking about when people reset the GOM and it jumps back to close to the wltp range, people suddenly think they have more but it very quickly disappears when you start driving again, and adjust to a more accurate reading
It is a quirk of MGs that when you reset the GOM it comes back with an unrealistic range figure, that very quickly then adjusts to a smaller range as you drive.
My Born doesn't do this and a relatives Mégane doesn't either, it may add 2/3 more miles but stays pretty accurate.
It is another...
Didn't mean using the 0-60 was irresponsible, that's exactly why you get one, was meaning using it within a built up area was irresponsible
Which most "city" cars are used in.
Which brings us right back to it's not a city car
To be fair you are entitled to class it how you like but we all know it's not a city car, similarly EV wise 64 kWh battery is not a small battery, it is now pretty much average
As far as the X Power goes, as this is the point of this thread, it is 100% not a city car! If you used what the X...
The MG 4 is definitely not a city car, if that was the case they wouldn't have made the urban or be developing the MG 2. What's that going to be a small city car?
EU cars had heat pumps in the 4, even in Spain, which I would guess has milder winters than here for the most part.
There were a couple of Spanish members that confirmed this
MG aftersales have ruined what is a decent value car for numerous people, you only have to look on social media to see that.
I'd imagine you would be very happy with it if people have experienced zero issues
Just got an email from octopus saying they are delaying this till march to make sure all their improvements are in place and working.
In my last email, I mentioned we’re introducing a 6-hour smart charging limit to keep the system fair for everyone. I’ve heard your feedback, and we’re making...
I have been as critical as anyone re the MG4, as the wife's was incredibly problematic for a year/18 months.
The big issue was aftersales the dealer just didn't seem to give a toss.
After numerous updates it's pretty much behaving as it should.
Is the software good? I'd say average at best.
Is...
Not disagreeing with anything you are saying but I can't find anything to say they have banned NMC batteries, I can see that there is a decline in sales but they are still the battery of choice for premium long range cars.
There are various tests online and if you look on the forum there are posts from members from Scandinavia talking about heat pumps, basically on short stop start journeys the make little to no difference.
They come into their own on longer distance journeys, they are very efficient, similar in...
I think you have got yourself mixed up with the IMs and the cast rear suspension etc.
NMC isn't an abandoned battery chemistry new and improved versions continue to be developed it is still the battery of choice for all long range cars and high performance cars, as it can sustain the power...
If you feel like digging around in the forum there are several older threads discussing just using you charger schedule and leaving the cars alone.
The ohme app is pretty solid and shouldn't give you any issues.
As has been said your 250 mile reading is being very optimistic.
Average winter LR...
No UK MGs have done any OTA updates, the are supposed to be coming to the IMs at some point.
All these issues are like history repeating itself, sounds exactly like the wife's MG 4
Definitely see a lot of ID3s about, good car although I do prefer the refresh when they removed the raised black bit of trim that was between the bonnet and bottom of the windscreen
Quite a good video talking about how brutal this years winter test was, even compared to last year's.
The got to do it in a Kia EV2 (which looks better in this than previous pictures)
Interesting that eco mode is not allowed.
Not sure if anyone has seen this, Omoda 5 in Asia, driving along and rear axle collapsed.
The close ups don't give a lot of faith in the quality of parts/ workmanship.
It's high when you compare it to ice cars, a golf R that is capable of 155mph and 0-60 of 4.6 secs and has a mid £40k list price is a group 33
Mercedes A45 AMG again mid£40k 168 mph 0-60 3.9 secs group 41.
Insurance does seem to be weighted against Chinese cars a bit, must be due to parts...
Battery discharge isn't linear in most cars.
why would you need to stay in the 300 mile zone?
I tend to charge my car to 80% and charge again around the 30% mark (sometimes under)
Hopefully the facelift has given the 4 lights in the back as I agree it was a daft omission.
Not so fussed with the other stuff, pan roof maybe and agree re ambient lighting, not just Chinese cars most makers are including it now
As you say everyone is entitled to express their own opinions but when they are so easy to prove wrong then all it proves is that people really haven't looked into the real facts.
Members experiences on this forum aren't biased and those disagreeing about your arguements about EVs being no good...
I think there will be some good deals as currently the new premium 64kwh has the same list price as a pre reg IM5 with only 15 miles on the clock.
Really not a fair contest
Again mostly anti EV rubbish, EV batteries can be repurposed and used again for other uses
And the whole fossil fuel crap makes me laugh.
Scotland generated a record 38.4 terawatt-hours (TWh) of electricity from renewable sources, marking a 13.2% increase from the previous year. Renewable...
I don't recognise any of these issues. As has been said I tap my electroverse card and it always works, exactly like your bank card you mention.
If you are going on a long journey why would you not already have a couple of apps setup before hand, it's almost like people want problems.
5...
Yeah I've heard of other dealers giving affinity discounts even though you don't qualify (on paper) I think they still put it through the books as affinity though
I think some of them are affinity with a bit extra, if you read their small print a lot of their really good deals are 6.9% Apr, if you go for a 0% deal you don't get the same discount
Keep on top of the weight with walking, and indoor rowing.
Love doing Munros and Scotland's long walks.
Done the Great Glen Way and Rob Roy way
West Highland way is planned for next April
Some cars don't reset completely however, which would hamper this, the MG 4 obviously does, my Born doesn't it's will add a couple of extra miles but still give a more realistic range guess.
My relatives Mégane is the same it's doesn't reset to WLTP and this is nothing to do with the SOH of the...
@Miles Roberts CG good review again, nice to see common sense car reviews without the usual pound land Jeremy Clarkson impersonations that the wannabes try.
It's bigger than an mg4 and my born also has a bigger boot, part of the £5k off is the full £3750 EV grant.
For the size of the car, range, finish etc I actually think it's a decent price
Not a pre reg actually brand new and if willing to wait, for a new factory order, it has a new fancy inverter and wheel bearings to improve efficiency smallish battery (under 70kwh) and 311 miles of range.
I agree with @Everest it's not about the long distance journey range, it's the round trip range for me.
Do various trips of single legs 90-150 miles, I can do most return journeys without charging in summer. Obviously different in winter.
There were answers saying otherwise and the time it took him speaks to a slower average speed.
Also he stopped the clock on his stops and he still took a couple of hours longer than Google maps predicts (which is always on the conservative side).
Each to their but when I bought my first EV I...
Huge difference between 50 and 60 on motorway/dual carriageway.
50 will force trucks buses etc to do pretty slow overtakes, thus backing up traffic in the outside lane, which is inconsiderate and causes frustration.
No issues with 60/65 as larger vehicles won't need to overtake
As has been said, in response to point 5.
All new MGs support OTA updates however MG haven't implemented it.
It is due to be rolled out to the IMs this year.
If the updates are like other makes they will arrive when your car has been left linked to your house WiFi
Yeah it's posted somewhere already, the boy is a hypermiler
Impressive range but he wasnt going anywhere near the speed limit on the motorway (doing about 50/55)
It's great that the car can get those figures but who wants to drive that slow, each to their own but I actually think your being...
The kingdom of Fife has
Blue bin general waste
Black bin paper
Green bin plastic and tins
Brown bin garden and food waste from small caddy bin with biodegradable bags in the kitchen.
Glass are at local recycling large containers (most towns/villages have them)
Problem is the government has made being a feckless halfwit a career choice, due to the amount of benefits they get for sitting on their arse, the more they reproduce the more money they get!!
People who work rightly tend to just have families they can afford.
We need a purge 😁
Poor real world range for a bigger battery car, 78kwh usable and averages 250 miles combined real world.
295 miles claimed on website which is low for a battery that size and according to autotrader ins group 45
Changan Deepak S05 coming this year, looks really well specced.
Id rather try and have a conversation with an ai robot rather than some of the halfwit under class that dodge about our town centres and estates like an episode of the walking dead
Tried to keep the proper expensive stuff out of it, but used there are some cracking cars. Although I'm not a huge fan of the smarts
Some good used deals
Almost 600 BHP for @salty
The post could have done with more details but the member has been around since the 4 was first released.
I don't agree with some of their posts in the past when I've read them.
But to accuse them of being a troll is way off, they are very pro MG 4 and most of their posts praise their car.
I...
As you say it depends what you want, is a better finish interior, Google software, power tailgate, Harman kardon stereo, ambient lighting, better alloys and the big selling point lights in the back, worth 6k extra
One of the issues is People have not always been able to fully clean their discs using this method due to issues with their pads applying uneven pressure and only cleaning part of the disc
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