CCS charging

[mkp1969]

Anyone else seen charging speeds over 135kW on their LR or Trophy?

 

[siteguru]

I'm sure one of the review videos on YouTube had reported similar (140+ kW)

 

[beefyj]

Yep, 142kW I saw on my SE LR on Ionity. 22-80% in 23 mins.

 

[Stan1970]

Those are promising numbers, but how fast can the standard range with the LFP Chemistry charge?

 

[siteguru]

Well the spec sheet says 115kW (from memory)

 

[AbleArcher]

Yep, 140 on Ionity

 

[siteguru]

Yep, 140 on Ionity

Is that an LR or SR model?

 

[Stan1970]

115Kw seems a bit high for a LFP battery. Strange, that there is nobody testing the standard range one.

 

[Cocijo]

Yep - £150+ and hour…

 

[APVLC]

Yes, tested in a 300kW power charger from Zunder in Spain I tested 143kW for the MG4 Luxury.

 

[Big Al]

Tried a 350kw Ionity charger today, pretty happy with 131KW, though it was a faff to get the charging to start. Apps, QR codes, phone calls and re-boots. But got sorted in the end

 

[LukeLukeLuke30]

Very impressive charging speeds for a budget car, in fact it looks like the charging curve beats some of the higher priced cars.

 

[MoDolph]

Yep, very impressive. It's just a shame that there are not many chargers around capable of this kind of power. Most of the time we'll be stuck charging at ~80kW on Gridserve/MFG/Instavolt etc.

 

[mkp1969]

Very impressive charging speeds for a budget car, in fact it looks like the charging curve beats some of the higher priced cars.

I used a BP 150kw rapid charger based at a petrol station (I know!) yesterday and in the time it took me to buy a pack of crisps and a drink (short queue) my car went from 24% to 63%. This makes it far more usable on long journeys than my previous Zoe (22kw AC Max where available).
It only took a little longer to hit 80% (208 miles range indicated).
Very pleased with it so far.

 

[afterburner]

Hi all, piggybacking on this thread to ask if any of you have tested a CCS peak charging rate for an SE LFP at 10%-80% SoC?
I'm a French member and other French users/owners on French forums have started testing on Tesla Superchagers, however , no data from a 10%-80% charging curve, only starting at a 15% soC. Also, they never achieved more than a 70 kW peak charge rate, a far cry from the advertised 117 kW.
Another French reviewer had a SE LFP model peak at 84kW on a Ionity at 35% SoC...
There is currently no real-world data confirming the official 117kW peak charge rate and I'm getting concerned.
If you guys could help me clarify this, that'd be awesome.
Cheers from Bordeaux, France.

 

[jon0881]

Following to see what the Se Sr maxes out at

 

[mkp1969]

Hi all, piggybacking on this thread to ask if any of you have tested a CCS peak charging rate for an SE LFP at 10%-80% SoC?
I'm a French member and other French users/owners on French forums have started testing on Tesla Superchagers, however , no data from a 10%-80% charging curve, only starting at a 15% soC. Also, they never achieved more than a 70 kW peak charge rate, a far cry from the advertised 117 kW.
Another French reviewer had a SE LFP model peak at 84kW on a Ionity at 35% SoC...
There is currently no real-world data confirming the official 117kW peak charge rate and I'm getting concerned.
If you guys could help me clarify this, that'd be awesome.
Cheers from Bordeaux, France.

My partner has an SE SR and the best we've seen it do is 84kw. That was on the exact same charger from the photo I started this thread with.

 

[JohnInFrance]

Anyone else seen charging speeds over 135kW on their LR or Trophy?


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As a ZS owner, that's a speed we can only dream of !! Nice.

 

[Sparkles]

I have an LFP - only fast charged twice.

The first was a FastNed from c.20% to 80% - started at 67kW then dropped linearly to around 28kW by 80%. I then travelled c.60 miles and drove around some country roads I know well, arriving at an Ionity charger, where it only charged at c.35kW - which was enough to take me to 50% for the drive home and a long slow granny charge for 24 hours.

It has literally only had two charge cycles from new, so I'm rather assuming the battery is 'learning' and the BMS is optimising during the early charge cycles, plus it might be that it simply doesn't like repeated fast charging. Time will tell.

Overall I'm entirely comfortable with this, as it certainly charges faster than my previous i3 - though that would maintain a rate of 45kW all the way to c.85-90% - so LFP's appear to throttle the charging rate more linearly.

This may improve with time and / or software updates.

 

[afterburner]

Hi folks, appreciate your feedback and data reports. I'm concerned tbh.
@Sparkles point about the BMS is kinda moot imho, as Tesla Model 3 LFP do not have any issue of throttle fast charging in their early stage of use.
This is actually a big issue to me and other French owners if the advertised peak charge rate is untrue.
We keep gathering some real-world data on our end but i'm very thankful for your feedback as well.

IF you dare to venture into French forum territory with google translate, here is our thread on MG4 SE SR LFP peak Charging rate investigation : Standard LFP : vos courbes et pics de charge en DC (charge rapide)