AC Charging Speed

[MuzGB1970]

I plugged my Trophy into the work 22kW wall box this morning, I was expecting it to be limited to 7.4kW but was pleasantly surprised at the 9.74kW it charged at. Makes for a shorter charge when you're getting your juice at 2kW per hour quicker!

 

[Deleted member 9909]

Interesting...does that mean Trophy at least has 11kw inverter? Given inverter losses etc. that figure seems to indicate so. When you have a moment can you check if the car socket has L2 and L3 shiny pins?

Alan

 

[MuzGB1970]

Interesting...does that mean Trophy at least has 11kw inverter? Given inverter losses etc. that figure seems to indicate so. When you have a moment can you check if the car socket has L2 and L3 shiny pins?

Alan

Can you point me in the direction of a diagram so I know which pins to check?

 

[tsedge]

I plugged my Trophy into the work 22kW wall box this morning, I was expecting it to be limited to 7.4kW but was pleasantly surprised at the 9.74kW it charged at. Makes for a shorter charge when you're getting your juice at 2kW per hour quicker!

That confirms the manual then, LR supports 11kW. ?

 

[Deleted member 9909]

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Look at this, Alan

 

[Deleted member 9909]

We should have either 6.6kw single phase or 11kw 3 phase charging. Losses to the actual battery are about 10 to 15% due to a number of factors including loss at the inverter. So 6.6 may only be in the 5's and 11 in the 9's..which is what you are getting.

Alan

 

[MuzGB1970]

Interesting...does that mean Trophy at least has 11kw inverter? Given inverter losses etc. that figure seems to indicate so. When you have a moment can you check if the car socket has L2 and L3 shiny pins?

Alan

Alan, pins L2 and L3 are metal but have plastic/rubber caps on the very end. Does that match what you expected?

 

[Deleted member 9909]

Yes. Plastic caps to stop fingers touching the top. That seems to confirm 11kw

 

[Gem10]

Yes. Plastic caps to stop fingers touching the top. That seems to confirm 11kw

If it has 11kW then it just maybe possible it has a heat pump too, like the EU Luxury!

 

[Deleted member 9909]

?

 

[siteguru]

I'm sure someone posted previously (in another thread) comparison images of under the bonnet with and without heat pump. So if the car has a heat pump then it should be obvious?

 

[BugEyed]

Or it could be FUD from the App. I'd wait and see how much charge you actually get in the car - can you pop out and take a look?

 

[Deleted member 9909]

Ra

Or it could be FUD from the App. I'd wait and see how much charge you actually get in the car - can you pop out and take a look?

Raining on our parade ?️

 

[MuzGB1970]

Or it could be FUD from the App. I'd wait and see how much charge you actually get in the car - can you pop out and take a look?

My Zappi app confirmed charging at ~10kW so I'm inclined to believe it. If someone could post a pic of a heat pump in an MG4 I can check that too.

 

[Deleted member 9909]

Don't know if it helps but look at pipes coming out the radiator and see if it goes into something like the one in my ev or the diagram image, both heat pumps

 

[tsedge]

Or it could be FUD from the App. I'd wait and see how much charge you actually get in the car - can you pop out and take a look?

Stop doubting ?. It is in the manual and the pins are there and the reports are exactly the charge level we’d expect!

I think the only reason people thought it wasn’t for the UK was the EU vehicle details which mentioned 11kW because that’s an expected standard on the continent but not here.

On the heatpump I don’t know why that wouldn’t be mentioned for the UK… jury is still out.

 

[Deleted member 10066]

I tested my Trophy on a Tesco / PodPoint 22kW charger over the weekend, and only observed sub-6kW charging. Going to try a other 22kW chargers in the area later on

 

[Deleted member 9909]

I tested my Trophy on a Tesco / PodPoint 22kW charger over the weekend, and only observed sub-6kW charging. Going to try a other 22kW chargers in the area later on

What Model was that? All of my local Tesco are only 7kw so you must be better served

Alan

 

[MundaneMatt]

I tested my Trophy on a Tesco / PodPoint 22kW charger over the weekend, and only observed sub-6kW charging. Going to try a other 22kW chargers in the area later on

I would check the cable you're using. It will need to be a 32A three-phase cable, not just a 32A cable.

 

[Deleted member 9909]

Yip, 7 pin not 5 pin for L2 and L3 to connect

Alan